Talk of COVID deaths ‘cynical’ and ‘somewhat insensitive’ - a podcast by ABC Radio

A push for open borders, and a suggestion some people may die thereafter, prompts blowback against the boss of airline Virgin Australia; Leading epidemiologist Mary Louise McLaws labels talk of COVID deaths cynical, and tells us what needs to happen before border rules ease; And veteran Australian diplomat Bob Bowker discusses the implications of the latest violence in the Middle East and whether Israel's vision of a state just for Jews is sustainable.

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