S5E2 | When the Levee Breaks: Vale’s Sandra Guerra on Changing a Culture After Tragedy - a podcast by LRN

from 2021-02-17T17:51:36

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Sandra Guerra, Managing Director of Better Governance, talks about how she went from journalist to corporate executive to board member, what attracted her to the field of ethics and compliance, and what we can learn from Vale S.A.’s two deadly dam collapses as it relates to corporate culture, and acting when issues are brought forward by whistleblowers. 



 



“The main change that happened is precisely related to culture. Culture is something that takes time to change...this issue was so big, so important, that it opened eyes and hearts and minds of everyone, creating the condition to change the culture.” 



- Sandra Guerra 



 



One of the forerunners of corporate governance in Brazil, Sandra Guerra has served as a board member and chairperson of boards of directors since 1995. She presently is managing director of Better Governance, and sits on two public company boards. Her experience includes acting on the boards of listed, closed, family-controlled and state-controlled companies, as well as for nonprofit organizations in Brazil and abroad. 



 



With 25 years of experience in corporate governance, Guerra was one of the founding members of the Brazilian Institute of Corporate Governance, where from 2012 to 2016 she was board chair. On two occasions, she was also a member of the board of directors of the International Corporate Governance Network, and served as a director of Global Reporting Initiative from 2017 to 2019. 



 



Ever since she completed her Master's degree in business administration at FEA-USP in 2009, Guerra's research has been focused on the board of directors. Certified as a board member by the IBGC, and as a mediator by the CEDR-Center for Effective Dispute Resolution, Guerra continues to serve as a board member, currently at Vale S.A. and GranBio S.A. In 2017 she published the book, “The Black Box of Governance: Boards of Directors Revealed by Those Who Are Part of Them.” 



 



What You’ll Learn on This Episode: 



  • [1:06] What sparked Guerra’s interest in ethics and compliance and how has her career path led to her to where she is today? 




  • [3:26] What sparked Guerra’s interest in corporate governance? 




  • [5:36] Why didn’t the first dam incident at Vale lead to changes to prevent the second one? 




  • [12:40] What can organizations learn from Vale’s experiences, especially as it relates to ethics and compliances issues? 




  • [15:20] Beyond Vale, what are some issues Guerra sees driving corporate boards in 2021? 



 



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