Talking Michael Jordan, The Last Dance with author Roland Lazenby - a podcast by Kurt Helin, NBC Sports

To get inside the Jordan-era Bulls and the documentary The Last Dance, we went to the guy who wrote the book on Jordan. Literally. Author Roland Lazenby wrote "Blood on the Horns" about these very 1997-98 Bulls, plus he wrote "Michael Jordan: The Life" and he joined Kurt Helin of NBC Sports this week. They talk about the tension on that team with GM Jerry Krause, how Michael Jordan's upbringing made him competitive, and his time in baseball — all with inside details you're not going to hear anywhere else.

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