Death by a thousand cuts - a podcast by The Age and Sydney Morning Herald

The Eagles were deserved grand final winners, but Pies players and fans will be left with plenty of what-ifs from the final quarter on Saturday.

This week Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Jimmy Bartel look back on what was a brilliant grand final, and what the future holds for the two teams that took part in it.

Plus, whispers about a meeting between Dylan Shiel and Carlton that almost involved a private jet, how a photocopier resulted in a very crowded Collingwood rooms on Saturday and much more.

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