'Stupid and selfish and undisciplined' - a podcast by The Age and Sydney Morning Herald

As Dustin Martin adds to the Tigers' woes, Jimmy Bartel, Jake Niall, Caroline Wilson and Sam McClure ask whether Richmond can still finish top four and whether Martin can truly be considered a champion player. Plus, umpiring issues, the problem for the Dees, praise for the Suns and what Brendon Bolton must do this season to secure his job.

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