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Real Job Talk

Seasoned HR and recruiting consultants Liz and Kat help you navigate your career and get through your work day. Go beyond the employee manual for some real job talk!

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Episode 93: How to Handle Your Company Card from 2023-12-05T13:00

Today we’re talking about all things Company-Paid. We're here to help you understand and navigate the world of expenses. Here are the Real Job Talk guidelines for using your company credit card. Gu...

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Episode 92: This Was All An Accident with Kat Kibben from 2023-10-18T08:00

Welcome back to Real Job Talk, Kat Kibben! Kat (pronouns they/them) is the founder of Three Ears Media, a speaker, advocate, and leader in the HR space around inclusivity and job descriptions. We'r...

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Episode 91: Networking with a Purpose with Robert Gilbreath from 2023-08-28T06:00

Welcome to Real Job Talk Robert Gilbreath! Robert talks to us about his career journey as a solopreneur, entrepreneur, and an employee and how he treats each role like he’s the owner of the company...

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Episode 90: Advance Your Career with Kelli Thompson from 2023-06-16T07:00

Welcome to Kelli Thompson! Kelli is a speaker, coach, author, and HR executive who left the corporate world to pursue her passion for helping women advance their careers. She is driven to help more...

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Episode 89: Feedback Conversations at Work from 2023-05-03T18:00

Today we're talking about giving feedback at work. In talking with managers at work, Liz encouraged people to ask their people how they wanted to get feedback and how to deliver news positive and n...

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Episode 88: Layoffs and Severance -- What Should You Know? from 2023-02-27T08:15

We talk about a topic that has come up extensively over the last few months -- severance packages. What are they? What aren't they? Why do they exist? What do you do when you get them? Our goal is...

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Episode 87: Change in Careers with Mpume Ncube-Daka from 2023-01-13T06:00

Liz and Kat Zoom in with Mpume Ncube-Daka all the way from South Africa to talk about change conversations. Mpume works with people to drive the best decisions in their growth and development. She ...

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Episode 86: How to avoid job abandonment from 2022-11-29T18:00

Today we’re talking about job abandonment -- something we’ve each seen a handful of times in our corporate careers. (Kat saw it more with people working in retail.) We want you to know what job aba...

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Episode 85: Personal Branding and Resume Strategies with Angela Loeb from 2022-10-04T06:00

Welcome to Real Job Talk, Angela Loeb! We refer our clients who need their resumes done to Angela because she literally wrote the book(s) on resumes and job searching. Angela started out helping pe...

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Episode 84: Your company was acquired! Now what? from 2022-08-30T07:00

In this episode we advise on what to do when your company gets acquired. Most of us don’t know if our company is going to change structure, ownership, or leadership, so when something big is announ...

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Episode 83: Top Secret! Taking about NDAs from 2022-06-28T06:00

Top secret! We’re talking about NDAs, non-disclosure agreements. What’s an NDA? It’s an agreement between you and the company saying that you won’t share information about the company outside of th...

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Episode 82: Truth in Background Checks from 2022-05-17T09:00

Today we’re talking about background checks. Background checks are a standard piece of company’s hiring processes. The company takes the resume and verifies education, employment, and criminal reco...

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Episode 81: Managing Gen Z and intergenerational communication with Dr Carrie Root from 2022-04-12T06:00

Welcome to Dr. Carrie Root, who joins us to share her book The Other Soft Skill that teaches about intergenerational communication and connection. Carrie has had a number of career twists and turns...

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Episode 80: Millennial Management with Emily Tsitrian from 2022-02-22T06:00

Welcome to Professional Service Manager and author of the new book Make Me The Boss: Surviving as a Millenial Manager in the Corporate World, Emily Tsitrian! We talked with Emily about being a “new...

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Episode 79: Be Prepared for Networking! from 2022-01-18T07:00

In this episode we’re taking a lesson from something that happened to Liz and using it to help people be prepared for networking meetings, especially when networking with executives. Liz posted on ...

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Episode 78: Career Rehab with Kanika Tolver from 2022-01-04T06:00

Welcome to Kanika Tolver, speaker, CEO/founder, and author of Career Rehab. Kanika is a tech program manager who has build a business around helping people find and get the jobs they really want an...

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Episode 77: Bereavement Leave from 2021-12-21T07:00

Today we’re talking about bereavement and bereavement leave and what to do when you need to take bereavement. Many companies offer very little bereavement leave. A leae of 3 days for a close loved ...

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Episode 76: Follow Your Path with Dr Carol Parker Walsh from 2021-12-08T10:00

Today we’re welcoming Dr. Carol Parker Walsh, whose tagline we love: she helps high-achieving professional women at midlife courageously design a career, brand&life they love. Carol is a coach, a s...

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Episode 75: How to give notice at a new job from 2021-11-23T10:00

We have a listener question!!! We got a great email from a global listener that we had to record right away (we sent them the raw recording). The letter was as follows: Hi ladiesI have recently dis...

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Episode 74: New Job Checklist from 2021-11-09T06:00

You're starting a new job. Congrats! OK, now what's next? Every company does onboarding differently: some bigger companies tend to have more structured onboarding and some start-ups less so. HR onb...

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Episode 73: Job search and resume tips from a recruiter - with Michele Olivier from 2021-10-26T06:00

Welcome Michele, resume coach, recruiter, and LI influencer extraordinaire. Michele is a seasoned global HR professional who is the owner of O&H Consulting. We brought Michele to RJT to talk about ...

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Episode 72: Divisiveness at work from 2021-10-12T06:00

This week we talk about divisiveness at work. Divisive opinions at work are an example of divisiveness in the world ... people seem to be on one side or the other of so many issues, and we can’t re...

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Episode 71: When a Colleague Quits from 2021-09-28T06:00

We have a letter from a listener who doesn’t think they reacted properly when a colleague quit. They reacted with a big “Really? Why? I thought you liked it here!?!” and then felt like a bad collea...

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Episode 70: Realities of working parents with Whitney Casares from 2021-09-14T06:00

Welcome to Real Job Talk, Whitney Casares- the author of the Working Mom Blueprint, pediatrician, mom, and supporter of moms in the workplace through her community at www.modernmommydoc.com. We inv...

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Episode 69: Getting Productive with Don Khouri from 2021-08-31T06:00

Welcome, Don Khouri! Don is a PhD in Human and Organization Systems who works with leaders and individual contributors to build their presence, improve communication, and be more productive. It’s ...

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Episode 68: Going Back to the Office from 2021-08-17T06:00

This episode is discussing the complex question of going back into the office as companies are beginning to open up their offices and asking workers to return. We talk about options around going ba...

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Episode 67: Overcoming Fear and Doubt in your Career from 2021-08-03T06:00

Fear and doubt come in so many forms, including imposter syndrome, self-deprecation, and holding yourself back in other ways. We’re here to talk about how to overcome these things in the workplace....

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Episode 66: Being a Woman in Tech with Kat Cosgrove from 2021-07-13T06:00

Welcome to Real Job Talk, Kat Cosgrove, Staff Developer Advocate from Pulumi. We invited Kat to join us to talk about her experience as a technical woman in the technology industry. After a confere...

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Episode 65: Telling Your Story from 2021-06-29T06:00

Check out our new tagline!!! We’re evolving, and while we loved our water cooler, it’s been sitting dormant since March, 2020. Real Job Talk is the podcast for mid-career professionals looking for ...

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Episode 64: Build Solid Professional Relationships from 2021-06-15T06:00

Today’s episode is about building and deepening professional relationships at work, and small changes that can have a big impact on your work relationships, personal brand, and people’s experience ...

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Episode 63: Pivot to Win with Jordan Babineaux from 2021-06-01T06:00

Welcome to Real Job Talk, Jordan Babineaux! Jordan was an NFL player for 10 years, is a sports broadcaster, runs serveral businesses, is receiving his MBA, and is a true entrepreneur. Jordan joins ...

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Episode 62: How can you tell if your workplace is toxic? from 2021-05-18T06:00

May is mental health awareness month, and we want to tell you to take care of yourself. Yes, you hear us talk about self care, but we also want you to know that you’re not alone and that your emplo...

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Episode 61: Managing up with Mary Abbajay from 2021-05-04T06:00

Welcome to Real Job Talk, Mary Abbajay! Mary is a speaker, consultant, and trainer who works with managers and teams to create productive workplaces. She also teaches at the university and post-gra...

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Episode 60: Communicating Globally with Raúl Sánchez and Dan Bullock from 2021-04-19T06:00

Welcome to Real Job Talk to NYU Professors Raúl Sánchez and Dan Bullock. Raúl and Dan teach a the Center for International Studies and write for the Wall Street Journey while also conducting traini...

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Episode 59: Follow Your Energy with Chris Gaither from 2021-04-06T06:00

Welcome back, Chris Gaither! Chris is a leadership coach, writer, and "career pivoter extraordinaire." Chis is somebody who listens to his own energy to make career decisions. Chris has tailored hi...

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Episode 58: Look out for your career as you get started with Bob and Nick Slater from 2021-03-23T06:00

Welcome to our first podcast guests who are a father-son duo, Bob and Nick Slater, authors of the new book Look Out Above!This book is aimed at helping people enter the job market, pivot in their c...

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Episode 57: Recruiters: understanding the different types from 2021-03-09T09:00

Today we’re talking about the world of recruiters: who they are and what you can expect from them. We’re deep diving into types of talent professionals to help you navigate your job search in a mor...

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Episode 56: Real Leadership with Jennifer Mackin from 2021-02-23T06:00

LIZ AND KAT ARE OFFERING CAREER COACHING!!! Our intro rate is $100/hr for BOTH of us! Email realjobtalk@gmail.com to schedule a 1:1 unrecorded session. Welcome Jennifer Mackin, author of the book L...

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Episode 55: The Art of Quitting from 2021-02-09T07:00

Quitting is an art- there’s a right way (leave with your head high and relationships strong) and a wrong way (think bull in a china shop or loud ranting with everyone breathing a sigh of relief whe...

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Episode 54: Envisioning 2021 with L’areal Lipkins from 2021-01-26T08:00

Welcome to L’areal Lipkins, a sales trainer and expert in goal setting, vision boards, and how to make your goals a reality by adopting the right plan and mindset. L’areal does NOT believe in SMART...

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Episode 53: Landing a real job in this virtual world with Jason Levin from 2021-01-12T06:00

Welcome Jason Levin, founder and CEO of Ready, Set, Launch. We’re talking with Jason about launching a job search in a virtual world. Jason grew up with a happy family whose lives changed dramatica...

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Episode 52: Coming Together to End 2020 with David Campt from 2020-12-22T06:00

Dr. David Campt is a national expert on inclusion and intergroup dialogue. David has worked with groups from large corporations to the White House, and has appeared on The Daily Show. He speaks a...

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Episode 51: Imposter Syndrome with Joep Piscaer from 2020-12-08T06:00

This week we welcome Joep Piscaer, who has grown his career by moving up the ranks in a technical organization, from sys admin to CTO, and now is an independent consultant focused on creating cont...

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Episode 50: Quitting your job to balance multiple jobs, multiple roles with Adam Bertram from 2020-11-24T06:00

This week we welcome Adam Bertram, aka Adam the Automator. Adam wrote a post called “I told my boss I quit and……” which went viral, so we invited Adam to join us. Our goal for having Adam on RJT ...

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Episode 49: Should I quit my job to be a consultant? from 2020-11-10T10:00

We have a letter!!! Our writer (Ready to Be Independent) asks about being a consultant: what does it take, what do they need to do, and what is the pros and cons list? We break it down. Some of the...

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Episode 48: Navigating Politics at Work from 2020-10-27T06:30

The US election is heating up, and Liz and Kat want to help you navigate politics, voting, and all related topics at work. First of all, know your company’s rules around voting and if you have time...

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Episode 47: Dare to Lead from 2020-10-13T06:30

Both Kat and Liz are BIG fans of Brene Brown’s Dare to Lead. This book is about leadership; we adhere to the belief that we’re all leaders of our own lives and careers, and so we think that this bo...

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Episode 46: Getting Federal Job Results with Corliss Jackson from 2020-09-29T06:30

On this episode, we welcome to Corliss Jackson, the founder and CEO of Federal Job Results and author of Cracking the Federal Job Code. Corliss is a speaker and panelist, and her company mission it...

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Episode 45: Take a vacation from 2020-09-15T06:30

Vacation is important for relaxation and connection, even in times of COVID. Our goal is to encourage you to take vacation, especially during this strange and difficult period. It takes trust and c...

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Episode 44: Surviving Business Travel with Stephen Andert from 2020-09-01T09:00

On this episode, we’re learning more about traveling for work. Despite most of us not travelling now, we all have had to travel before, and some of us are slowly starting to travel again for work. ...

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Episode 43: Title: Building your personal brand and evolving with Carla Birnberg from 2020-08-18T10:00

Welcome to RJT, Carla Birnberg! Carla is a friend of both Kat and Liz, and today we’re talking with Carla about her fascinating career journey as a solo-prenuer, marketer, writer and blogger. Carla...

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Episode 42: How to prepare for a job interview from 2020-08-04T06:00

This episode, we caught ourselves; we talk a lot about interviewing, but we forgot to talk about how to prepare for an interview. Get out your notebook and listen closely …. this episode will teach...

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Episode 41: Ask for what you need at work from 2020-07-21T06:00

We recorded this episode to help people ask for what they need at work, without also feeling like they are asking for too much, impairing their career, or being high maintenance. We start with the ...

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Episode 40: Deep Listening with Oscar Trimboli from 2020-07-07T06:00

Deep listening affects every area of your life, including creating stronger relationships at work and at home. Our guest, Oscar Trimboli, is a former technology exec who has dedicated his life to h...

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Episode 39: Managing Up from 2020-06-23T06:00

We’re excited to talk in this episode about reverse management, or managing up. We’re going to get into it, and talk about how to work with a manager, how to talk with your manager, and how to exce...

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Episode 38: Write a Resume that Gets Past the Screeners with Katrina Kibben from 2020-06-09T06:30

We welcome Katrina Kibben in this episode of Real Job Talk to talk with us. We're always glad to find another Kat! Katrina is a writer and recruiting professional who has built Three Ears Media aro...

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Episode 37: Building teams, connections, trust, and card games with Jason Treu from 2020-05-26T21:00

Jason Treu talks with Liz&Kat about building teams, trust, social wealth, and his game, Cards Against Mundanity. This week Liz and Kat welcome Jason Treu, author of the book Social Wealth, whose g...

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Episode 36: Find a “career peer” for collaboration and support: Emily Kurze and Nate Kartchner from 2020-05-12T06:00

Can you find a "career peer" - a partner for deep work - at work? Emily Kurze and Nate Kartchner met at work and began to collaborate on projects, on personal and professional growth, and eventuall...

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Episode 35: Coworkers and communication: live coaching session with Vince Wood from 2020-04-28T06:00

In this episode, Liz and Kat tackle some questions about communications with coworkers in this session with Vince Wood, a Houston-based IT professional and podcaster. Vince brought to the session a...

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Episode 34: How a small tech company competes for talent: with Scott Loughmiller from 2020-04-14T06:00

How does a tech company in San Francisco compete with Google&Facebook to get and keep the best talent? Kat and Liz talk with Scale Computing's Scott Loughmiller. This week we welcome Scott Loughmil...

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Episode 33: Taking a sabbatical wherever it leads with Becky Elliott from 2020-03-31T06:30

This week, we're doing a live career coaching session. We welcome Becky Elliott, a technologist and writer who is looking at what comes next in her career. The career coaching session was recorded...

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Episode 32: Working from home from 2020-03-17T15:00

This week, we talk about working from home. A lot of people are suddenly working from home because of the current coronavirus pandemic. A lot of teams are suddenly 100% remote in cultures where thi...

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Episode 31: Career pivot away from corporate to podcasting with Adrienne Garland from 2020-03-10T06:00

This episode we welcome Adrienne Garland to RJT. Adrienne is the CEO of She Leads Media, building a community of women entrepreneurs, starting with a successful conference and now adding a new podc...

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Episode 30: Resilience and mentoring with Phil Strazzulla from 2020-02-25T06:00

This week we welcome Phil Strazzulla. Phil has an interesting journey as a startup CEO, speaker, educator, mentor, and investor. Phil always knew he wanted to go into business and be a CEO, but w...

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Episode 29: Flat, Fluid, and Fast with Brynne Kennedy from 2020-02-11T11:00

Welcome Brynne Kennedy - author, entrepreneur and congressional hopeful for CA’s 4th district. Brynne started Topia- an HR and talent resources software company that she grew to a global company wi...

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Episode 28: Overlapping circles of career and parenting with Kim Lindauer from 2020-01-28T06:00

This week we welcome Kim Lindauer. Kim is the owner of Kim’s Gym and founder of My Venn Life (https://www.myvennlife.com), her new endeavor built to help and support moms who are entrepreneurs. Af...

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Episode 27: Setting Career and Work-Related Goals from 2020-01-14T06:00

Welcome to Season 2 of Real Job Talk! We are kicking off this season talking about setting goals at the beginning of the year. First up in this episode, Kat and Liz both describe their process t...

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Episode 26: Leadership, training, and neurodiversity with Sarah Noll Wilson from 2019-12-17T06:00

This episode, Kat and Liz talk about leadership development, theater training, and neurodiversity with Sarah Noll Wilson. Sarah is a leadership consultant and also a proponent for working with neur...

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Episode 25: Adaptive Workplaces with Chris Creel from 2019-12-03T00:00

Can you organize a company around collaborative projects and break free from your org chart? Liz and Kat talk with author Chris Creel, who says yes! Chris Creel, a technologist and futurist, is the...

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Episode 24: Surviving business travel with Erick Bronson from 2019-11-19T06:00

Always wanted to be a road warrior with lots of travel to faraway places and with super status at hotels and airlines? The real thing is not so glamourous. We looked far and wide for a great guest...

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Episode 23: Listener Question: What do you do if your boss is unethical? from 2019-11-05T06:00

We have a letter! This one addresses an issue that happens too often in the workplace: an unethical boss from a friend who signed off as, “My Boss is a Fraud With a Nice Car”. Ugh. The bottom line ...

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Episode 22: Coaching through change with Tracy Asamoah from 2019-10-22T06:00

Liz and Kat talk today with Tracy Asamoah, a coach and psychiatrist who works with people around life transitions. If you’re stuck, she will move you forward in a calm, mindful way. Tracy’s backgro...

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Episode 21: Active Listening from 2019-10-08T06:00

Welcome! We’re talking about active listening in the workplace this week. What do we mean? In Active Listening, the listener fully listens, contemplates, and responds. The more we can actively list...

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Episode 20: Career change perspective with Andrew Miller from 2019-09-24T06:00

How do you go about considering and executing a job change? Liz&Kat talk with technologist Andrew Miller about his thoughtful process: when to leave, what to go towards, playing to your strengths, ...

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Episode 19: Building a Human-First Culture - Carlos Hidalgo from 2019-09-10T06:00

Welcome Carlos!! Carlos tells us his background from non-profit to marketing to consulting. He talks through how giving it all to his business and not nourishing his relationships led to burnout, w...

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Episode 18: Conferences, Parties, and Events from 2019-08-25T06:00

In this episode we’re talking about the fun stuff at work. Parties, conferences….the not in the office “fun times”. What do I need to remember- what’s the difference between having fun and too much...

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Episode 17: Oversharing at Work from 2019-08-13T06:00

We’re people, and we bring our lives to work, but what are the lines and what can we share and not share at work? Bottom line: be yourself, but maybe you should be your work self. Try not to let y...

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Episode 16: Building Effective Teams with J. Mike Smith from 2019-07-30T06:00

Welcome to Liz and Kat’s former boss, J. Mike Smith (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmikesmithbackwest/) from BackWest Consulting (http://backwest.com/about/)! We invited Mike on to talk about teams, ...

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Episode 15: Questions to ask in a job interview from 2019-07-16T06:00

A lot of the job interview is other people asking you questions. But we've always told you that you should be asking them questions as well! But our bad -- we tell people to ask questions, but we d...

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Episode 14: Mindfulness at Work from 2019-07-02T08:00

Alexis Pokorny is our guest for this epsiode. Alexis’ background in sales at Cisco, and how she turned around a team using mindfulness and how she rolled out a mindfulness program for Cisco’s 70,00...

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Episode 13: Tips for New Managers from 2019-06-18T05:00

Our Resources for New Managers (/resources-for-new-managers) page Listener question! Yay!!!Today we answer a listener's questions about becoming a new manager, and how to go from individual contrib...

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Episode 12: Imposter syndrome, risks, and self-reflection with Amy Lewis from 2019-06-04T06:00

Welcome Amy Lewis, aka @commsninja! Amy is an incredible influence marketer in the tech world, and we’re so excited for her to join us to talk about her experience, and our topic du jour- Imposter ...

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Episode 11: Negotiating Your Offer from 2019-05-21T06:00

Do you talk about compensation in the job talk process? Quick answer- YES! Don't game the process- be clear on what you want.Holding back information puts you at a disadvantage with your offer- it ...

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Episode 10: Surviving a layoff from 2019-05-07T06:00

Our goal with this episode is to help you prepare for a layoff, to know what to look for before it happens, to be ready for it, to leave your current role gracefully, and how to go about a post-lay...

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Episode 9: Guest: Chris Gaither - Burnout Advice Around Reinventing Yourself from 2019-04-18T06:00

Liz and Kat introduce Chris (who Liz has known forever!). We talk about human sustainability and reflection on staying healthy within the work that you do. We discuss feeling stuck and working past...

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Episode 8: Help! I Don't Know How To Ask For a Raise! from 2019-04-09T06:00

Liz and Kat answer a listener question around how to ask for a raise. We talk about the best ways to approach the topic, how to read the situation before you ask, and ultimately how to be successfu...

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Episode 7: Asking friends for professional advice: what's appropriate? from 2019-03-21T12:00

Have you been wondering if you've been taking too much of your friends' time asking questions in their area of expertise? Join Kat and Liz and their guests John Troyer and Dr. Michelle Natinsky as ...

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Episode 6: Ever worked with a real a-hole? from 2019-03-07T05:00

Today Liz and Kat giggle and swear as we discuss a bunch of aspects of working with tough characters who “never do anything wrong”. Listen in for tips on how to sniff out assholes in the interview ...

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Episode 5: Even after the interview, you're still not done from 2019-02-21T08:00

You aced the interview, but you don't have the new job until you accept the offer! Liz and Kat cover how you navigate in the period after the interview. After the interview, should you send thank y...

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Episode 4: How do they find you? Secrets of the Sourcers with Angie Verros from 2019-02-07T07:00

This week, Kat and Liz sit down with our very first guest- super sourcer and recruiter Angie Verros, owner of Vaia Talent and host of the recruiting conference Talent 42. Angie breaks down the diff...

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Episode 3: You Got the Interview...Now What? from 2019-01-24T07:00

In this episode of Real Job Talk, Liz and Kat talk about how to prepare for a job interview. What do you do to get ready to go in and meet with a hiring manager, recruiter or team? Should you ask q...

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Episode 2: Starting your new job search from 2019-01-10T12:00

In this episode, Kat and Liz talk about finding a new job. So you're looking for a new job, right? First of all, are you sure you want to jump? There may be advantages to staying. Next, do you know...

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Episode 1: Careers, jobs, and recruiters -- what's this podcast all about? from 2018-12-20T17:00

Meet the hosts! Guest MC John Mark Troyer interviews the two hosts of the podcast, Liz Bronson and Kathleen Nelson Troyer, about their backgrounds and what this podcast is all about - jobs, careers...

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