Dr Hirini Kaa, leading change at the University of Auckland - a podcast by RNZ

The University of Auckland's Faculty of Arts has around five thousand students and over two hundred staff. Academic and Kaiārahi Dr Hirini Kaa is the driver or navigator of the Ako Arts Programme which aims to embed Māori and Pacifica knowledge into the faculty's course content. Piloted in 2018, Ako Arts is largely about reciprocal learning and mentorship. Dr Hirini Kaa joins Justine Murray for a kōrero on this week's Te Ahi Kaa.

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