Ford or Farrell? - a podcast by BBC Radio 5 live

Chris, Ugo and Ashy look ahead to the Premiership final at Twickenham. Who would make your combined Saracens and Sale XV? Would you have George Ford or Owen Farrell at fly-half? The guys pick their team and discuss the merits of the two England playmakers. Sale's Gus Warr joins the pod and we find out what Ashy was like as a team-mate, the importance of finger tape and what he's learnt from Sir Alex Ferguson. We also preview the URC final and Ashy talks about how he's finding retirement.

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