Jackal Willis and Simmonds the Viper - a podcast by BBC Radio 5 live

Ugo Monye, Chris Ashton and Chris Jones look back at the Premiership semi-finals. Wasps' Jimmy Gopperth drops by to chat about Jack Willis, Lee Blackett and facing Exeter in the final. Exeter fly-half Joe Simmonds gets compared to 'The Viper' Randy Orton and the 'Ash Splash' takes on a whole new meaning in one of many wrestling references this week. There is plenty on the dramatic draw in the Bledisloe Cup plus a discussion on player welfare and managing pain.

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