Schalk Brits and who is Jaco Johan? - a podcast by BBC Radio 5 live

Danny and Ashy try to work out if Jaco Johan is a real person or whether it's actually Rassie Erasmus in disguise. They also chat about the Lions' victory in the first Test and speak to World Cup winner Schalk Brits for his take on how the Springboks bounce back on Saturday. And England are on the lookout for another new coach after it was announced defence coach John Mitchell is joining Wasps. Should fans be concerned with the World Cup two years away?

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