Podcasts by SAY MORE

EP. 72 - ROCKSTARS, MISTRESSES, SURROGATES, THE MONARCHY from 2022-10-07T18:43

pop culture is truly losing it

EP. 71 - WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT ROE V. WADE w/ PAIGE GREEN from 2022-09-21T17:59:58

The gals welcome former guest Paige Green—nurse, doula, star—to talk about the dismal state of reproductive rights in America and how to generally deal.

EP. 70 - ORIGIN STORIES from 2022-03-19T17:11:20

M&O, together at last, talk about how they met the most important people in their lives.

EP. 69 - ORGASMS APLENTY from 2022-01-28T18:23:13

M&O talk (humbly) all things related to cumming: the different genres orgasm, the lack thereof, and why you can't trust your life decisions if you're having good sex.

EP. 68 - AN ODE TO OUR TWENTIES from 2022-01-18T02:35:02

As Melissa and Olivia depart the tragic & exhilarating decade of their twenties, they reminisce on the years they spent being whores in punk houses, sexless in relationships, and a sudden burst ...

EP. 67 - MORTALITY w/ ANDREA GIBSON from 2021-12-10T19:41:56

Olivia & Melissa go from complete chaos to total enlightenment in a conversation with renowned poet Andrea Gibson about mortality, the industry of death, the afterlife, and their new book YOU BE...

EP. 66 - Voyeurism&Sensitive Men from 2021-10-15T15:08:02

Olivia & Melissa briefly revisit the theory that Rooney mined their lives, wonder if voyeurism is always sexual, & if they've reached the end of the era of sensitive men. 

EP. 65 - OUR LIVES, MINED from 2021-08-27T15:16:57

O & M talk about the possibility that their lives have been used as fodder for a bestselling novel. Are they self-involved? Or are they right?

EP. 64 - RETROACTIVE JEALOUSY&OTHER TERRIBLE FEELINGS from 2021-06-20T16:53:29

M&O talk about how trauma can make relationships a nightmare but also how you can get better. 

EP. 63 - ARE WE SMART? from 2021-04-08T23:05:26

Melissa & Olivia question whether or not they are smart. Which maybe means they aren't?

Ep. 62: The Oversharing Industrial Complex from 2021-02-16T16:19:37

Melissa and Olivia talk about what it means when celebrities make money off their wounds and the intentions behind oversharing on the internet. They also go into the nuances of being an abolitio...

EP. 61 - BAD TV&TOUGH LOVE "PARENTING" from 2021-01-13T19:22:08

Melissa & Olivia try to justify their love of melodramatic television & also are in complete denial about their traumatic childhoods.

EP. 60 - ALTERNATE UNIVERSES from 2020-12-24T21:29:39

Melissa & Olivia talk about what could have been. 

EP. 59 - NORMIE CULTURE from 2020-11-01T22:02:44

Olivia & Melissa ponder Instagram script font, barnhouse lifestyle bloggers, women who dream of pumpkin patches, and embroidered towels. 

Say More 9.23.20 RECUT from 2020-10-06T17:41:52

As in, media. Not food. Media is our food. We feed on the faux-intimate lives of people we do not know. 

Say More 9.23.20 RECUT from 2020-10-06T17:41:52

As in, media. Not food. Media is our food. We feed on the faux-intimate lives of people we do not know. 

EP. 57 - BEING PERFORMATIVE&CAPITALISM from 2020-08-07T17:16:34

M & O are back, chatting about whether or not they have personalities & what it means to exist inside of a society fueled by consumerism & class warfare :) 

EP. 56 - CANCEL CULTURE from 2020-07-02T23:00:24

Meli & Oli chat about Twitter, accountability, & what it means to be cancelled while working towards restorative justice. 

EP. 55 - THE FOREMOTHERS OF PRISON ABOLITION from 2020-06-17T18:26:46

Melissa & Olivia talk extensively about the lives & work of Angela Davis, Ruth Wilson Gilmore, and Mariame Kaba.

EP. 54 - PRISON ABOLITION FOR DUMMIES from 2020-06-03T19:40:48

Melissa & Olivia answer the five most common questions when talking about abolishing the police & prison. 

EP. 53 - RUNNING IS MY BOYFRIEND w/ JOSEFINA OLIVA from 2020-05-27T15:55:58

We talk to Melissa's mom about falling in love with running after her divorce & how, committing to something for three months & then moving onto the next challenge, makes it your boyfriend. 

EP. 52 - NORMAL PEOPLE&SEX ON SCREEN from 2020-05-20T20:05:46

O & M talk Normal People and performative sex. 

EP. 51 - WHAT WE WANNA BE WHEN WE GROW UP from 2020-05-13T21:52:43

Melissa & Olivia talk about The Self and what becomes of it. 

EP. 50 - NIHILISM vs. PESSIMISM vs. OPTIMISM vs. ????? from 2020-05-07T17:12:39

Melissa & Olivia have a little chat about whether they have hope themselves, the world, and the people inside it. 

EP. 49 - GROUNDHOG DAY from 2020-05-02T23:12:12

Melissa & Olivia recount what it is they do every single fucking day. 

EP. 48 - WE RAN OUT OF IDEAS from 2020-04-23T01:01:21

so we just talked shit. 

EP. 47 - WHAT THE FUCK IS COVID-19 w/ JILL GATWOOD from 2020-04-15T23:18:24

Olivia & Melissa interview Jill Gatwood AKA Olivia's mom who, yes, she still calls mommy. Old habits die hard. She's an epidemiologist so she knows a lot of stuff that's valuable right now.

EP. 46 - THE QUESTIONS WE HATE from 2020-04-08T18:26:31

Melissa and Olivia answer the questions that started this podcast in the first place: the questions they never want to answer but keep getting asked. But this time, they answer them beautifully ...

EP. 45 - HOUSEPLANTS&ROMANTIC COMEDIES from 2020-04-01T18:09:09

Melissa & Olivia chat about inheriting a green thumb & letting it bloom in the quarantine, as well as why romantic comedies are, perhaps, the most reliable genre of art throughout history.

EP. 44 - SOLITUDE HACKS&ELIZABETH WARREN from 2020-03-26T22:42:42

Melissa interviews Olivia about the fact that she was already social distancing & Olivia asks Melissa about her tumultuous relationship with Lizzy.

EP. 43 - HOMETOWNS from 2020-03-19T22:45:47

Olivia asks Melissa about her hometown (her mother's kitchen) and Melissa asks Olivia about her's (a desert filled with rusty refrigerators).

EP. 42 - THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA w/ JOSHUA MCELROY from 2020-03-11T20:19:11

Melissa & Olivia interview an Australian they met at Sundance, who is on a journey across America for the first time. 

EP. 41 - AMERICAN DIRT, REPRESENTATION&TECH BROS from 2020-03-04T15:00

SEASON 2 STARTS NOW. Melissa & Olivia see each other for the first time in sixteen years - Olivia asks Melissa about the critically not-acclaimed novel American Dirt & the whiteness of the publi...

EP. 40 - BEING A YOUNG POP STAR, GOING INDIE&WHY IS LANA DEL REY DATING A COP? w/ SHAMIR from 2019-12-19T20:27:49

Melissa & Olivia chat with Shamir, a musician/icon based out of Philly, who had a taste of arenas and the world of mass produced pop music & chose his mental health instead. 

EP. 39 - AMAZON, NO MUSIC FOR ICE&BULLYING JEFF BEZOS w/ SADIE DUPUIS from 2019-12-12T18:37:28

Sadie Dupuis, poet, multi-instrumentalist, and lead vocalist of Speedy Ortiz, stops by the pod to talk to Olivia & Melissa about starting NO MUSIC FOR ICE, an initiative to keep music out of the...

Episode 38: DISCWOMAN, Appropriation&the world of techno w/ Frankie Hutchinson from 2019-12-05T18:34:45

Olivia & Melissa talk to Frankie Hutchinson of Discwoman, one of the co-founders of a talent agency for electronic music. They also talk about how much they loved Carmen Maria Machado's new book...

EP. 37 MINISODE - ALL OF MY PLANTS ARE TURNING BLACK from 2019-11-21T21:44:25

Olivia & Melissa read out spooky stories from listeners, one of which involves a cursed succulent. But maybe all succulents are cursed? Edited, mastered and scored by Natasha Jacobs.

EP. 36 - SOFAR SOUNDS, SPOTIFY,&HOW CAPITALISM RUINED MUSIC w/ LIZ PELLY from 2019-11-14T17:22:23

Olivia & Melissa chat with writer, Liz Pelly, who dives deep into the exploitation of artists by streaming platforms, the appropriation of the "house show" through venues like SoFar Sounds, & ho...

EP. 35 - OUR FAVORITE MOVIES&MORE SCARY STORIES from 2019-11-08T18:48:47

Melissa & Olivia interview each other about their favorite movies & read aloud listeners spooky stories with an even spookier score. 

EP. 34 - WE ARE BOTH HAUNTED from 2019-10-25T21:15:28

Olivia & Melissa tell the spooky stories of their life. Send yours to saymoresaymorepodcast@gmail.com & they will read them out loud. 

EP. 33 - THE FREEDOM OF ALTER EGOS w/ BECCA KAUFFMAN PT. 2 from 2019-10-17T20:42:08

Becca Kauffman stops by SAY MORE to chat about her performative persona, Jennifer Vanilla, what it means to "be yourself", and her new single, ERASE THE TIME, on her EP J.E.N.N.I.F.E.R.

EP. 33 - THE FREEDOM OF ALTER EGOS w/ BECCA KAUFFMAN PT. 1 from 2019-10-17T19:55:04

Becca Kauffman stops by SAY MORE to chat about her performative persona, Jennifer Vanilla, what it means to "be yourself", and her new single, ERASE THE TIME, on her EP J.E.N.N.I.F.E.R.

EP. 32 - Caroline Calloway&Spooky Tour Stories w/ Ellen Kempner from 2019-10-09T16:21:25

Olivia & Melissa talk about Caroline Calloway finally (still topical) & are then joined by Ellen Kempner of Palehound (the only Ellen they acknowledge & person wh...

EP. 31 - PUNISHERS&SVU w/ Tamara Santibañez from 2019-09-25T19:38:33

Olivia & Melissa are back together in the same room (Natasha Jacobs' Buschwick studio) talking about people who are punishers, the burden of knowledge! They are then joined by multi-disciplinary...

EP. 30 - EVERYTHING IS A PYRAMID SCHEME from 2019-09-18T16:00

Melissa & Olivia asked listeners to submit their pyramid scheme stories. Turns out, almost everything is a pyramid scheme. 

EP. 29 - BIRTHDAYS, DISAPPOINTING PARTIES, AND TURNING THIRTY w/ DIANNELY ANTIGUA from 2019-09-11T19:45:16

It's Diannely's thirtieth birthday so we had her read a poem and tell us about all the times she's cried in a bathtub. 

EP. 28 - SELF-CONFIDENCE, MOTHERS IN LAW, THAT WEIRD NEW NETFLIX MOVIE 'TALL GIRL' w/ AURA from 2019-09-04T19:11:01

Melissa & Olivia chat with mixed-media artist & musician AURA about things that help and ruin our confidence, like the media and mothers in law. 

EP. 27 - LIVE at LIFE OF THE PARTY BOOK RELEASE from 2019-09-02T17:31:31

Melissa interviews Olivia about her new book, Life of the Party, which meditates on true crime, fear, and violence against women. Melissa also talks extensively about how hot Olivia's dad is. 

EP. 26 - QUENTIN TARANTINO, MURDERED WOMEN IN HOLLYWOOD&CHILDISH MEN w/ JOURDAIN SEARLES from 2019-08-07T20:29:11

Olivia & Melissa chat with comedian & film critic, Jourdain Searles about how most movies made by men are bad. 

EP. 25 - BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, GUY FIERI, FATHERS,&THE OPPOSITE OF EX-HUSBANDS w/ RAX KING from 2019-07-24T16:48:16

This week we mourn the temporary loss of Olivia Gatwood with a solo show from our Melissa (Melissa rubbing her hands together, hunched over a smoking cauldron *THE PLAN HAS WORKED!*). Melissa ch...

EP. 24 - NUDES, CONVENIENCE CULTURE, DOG WALKING&THE GIG ECONOMY w/ BRIAN BURNS from 2019-07-17T17:11

M & O chat with the most productive person alive—Gwyneth Paltrow herself—Brian Burns about ATM's, invasive nudes, and all of the cities we have in common.

EP. 23 - CORPORATE FEMINISM w/ JAMIE LOFTUS from 2019-07-03T17:59:07

Olivia & Melissa talk with Boss Whom Is Girl creator & comedian Jamie Loftus about the rise of Girl Boss culture, corporate feminism, and the cult of Sheryl Sandberg.

EP. 22 - NERD CULTURE&DRAG QUEENS w/ GARRETT LUKAS DELLIOS from 2019-06-26T16:04

Olivia & Melissa interview Dungeons & Dragons fanatic & drag performer (Beef Cakes) Garret Lukas Dellios about obsessive sub-cultures and who loves them. 

EP. 21 - MOVING, PHYSICAL GRIEF&BREAKUPS w/ LUCY COTRELL from 2019-06-19T16:51:40

Olivia & Melissa chat with comedian Lucy Cotrell about a lot of sad shit and some funny shit too.

EP. 20 - VEGANISM, MASCULINITY, CLASSISM&CONSUMERISM w/ BEN ZAIDI from 2019-06-05T13:00

Olivia & Melissa interview poet & musician Ben Zaidi about veganism & all the arguments against/for it. 

EP. 19 - CAMP, LATINIDAD, SYLVIA PLATH&SOLANGE w/ KYLE LOPEZ from 2019-05-29T17:34:21

Melissa & Olivia chat with poet, Kyle Lopez, about the real definition of camp, the vastness of Latinidad, & Kyle reads a poem after Sylvia Plath & Solange. 

EP. 18 - DOULAS, ABORTION&BODY LITERACY w/ PAIGE GREEN from 2019-05-22T15:50:54

Olivia & Melissa chat with a real life, pro-choice doula about the business of birth, primal fertility, and why the Alabama abortion bill isn't about saving babies at all. 

EP. 17 - PROM&RACING CARS from 2019-05-15T16:10:38

Olivia talks about her days drag racing like some bitch from 2 Fast 2 Furious & Melissa reminisces about the time she looked beautiful at prom but got ignored all night & sought sexual revenge 1...

EP. 16 - DREAMS&TRINIDAD from 2019-05-08T13:00

Melissa talks about recording her dreams & making a movie out of them. Olivia reflects on moving to the Caribbean & becoming friends with bugs. 

EP. 15 - BEACHES, NUDITY,&MARRIED PARENTS w/ MELISSA ROCHA from 2019-05-01T17:01:04

Melissa & Olivia chat with comedian & short film star actress Melissa Rocha about being more comfortable naked than in a bikini & what it's like to have parents who did mostly everything right.

EP. 14 - VANITY, POP MUSIC, SELF LOVE&BRAVE FASHION CHOICES w/ BERNARD FERGUSON from 2019-04-24T15:52:31

Olivia & Melissa chat with poet & Extremely Kind, Intelligent Human, Bernard Ferguson about everything related to being obsessed with yourself.

EP. 13 - BOOBS&ACNE from 2019-04-17T16:00

Melissa talks to Olivia about what it's like to still be going through puberty & Olivia asks Melissa about her giant titties. 

EP. 12 - SHARKS&LADY SCIENTISTS W/ CHESTINA CRAIG from 2019-04-09T14:42:55

Olivia & Melissa interview marine biologist Chestina Craig on sharks, being a woman in science, & more!

EP. 11 - CHRONIC PAIN&BEING A MUSICIAN w/ THELMA from 2019-04-03T16:36:20

Olivia & Melissa talk to singer/songwriter, Thelma, about her journey through the music industry & navigating instruments, relationships, & employers as a person with chronic pain.

EP. 10 - GAY PORN w/ GABE GONZALEZ from 2019-03-12T16:55:20

Comic & internet sensation Gabe Gonzalez talks cinematography & film making & butt juice. 

EP. 9 - VALENTINES DAY, COOL KIDS, MEAN GIRLS, REGRETS w/ JULIA CLAIRE from 2019-03-12T16:40:30

Olivia and Melissa talk to comic & cultural critic Julia Claire about literally everything. 

EP. 8 - SISTERS&MENSTRUAL CUPS from 2019-02-19T18:13:02

Olivia interviews Melissa about the bitchy, unconditional love of sisterhood & Melissa asks Olivia about shoving a silicone shot glass up her pussy. 

EP. 7 - CUSTOMER SERVICE w/ Hieu Minh Nguyen from 2019-02-12T17:00

Melissa & Olivia interview their favorite poet & Julia Roberts guru, Hieu Minh Nguyen, about working in customer service & being a full time artist. 

EP. 6 - TRUE CRIME&SELENA from 2019-02-05T17:00

Olivia talks about her obsession with being murdered & Melissa shows off how much she knows about the late pop-star Selena. 

EP. 5 - ANXIETY&EX-GIRLFRIENDS from 2019-01-29T17:10:44

Melissa talks about her life riddled with anxiety & Olivia gets unevolved about how everyone she dates has cool exes.

EP. 4 - YEAST INFECTIONS&PSORIASIS from 2019-01-22T17:00

Melissa asks Olivia about her burning, itchy scalp while Olivia asks Melissa about the bread baking inside of her vagina. 

EP. 3 - CATS&BOYFRIENDS from 2019-01-15T17:00

Melissa asks Olivia why she fucking hates cats & Olivia asks Melissa about her new identity as A Person With A Boyfriend. 

EP. 2 - KARAOKE&BIKINI LINES from 2019-01-08T17:00

Olivia asks Melissa about her karaoke obsession & Melissa delves into the details of Olivia's outrageous bikini line. 

EP. 1 - BANGS&BEAUTY TUTORIALS from 2018-12-13T19:38:57

In the premier episode of SAY MORE, Olivia interviews Melissa about BANGS (as in, hair), and Melissa interviews Olivia about the world of YouTube beauty tutorials. 

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