SPM 233: Two Things Can Be True - a podcast by Rory Smith, Andy Hinchcliffe, Steve Wyeth, Hugh Ferris

The football: After Pep Guardiola seemed to lean into the very narrative that appears to annoy his acolytes more than any other for the Champions League final, we discuss whether something being pre-determined also dictates that it should be the singular cause of any outcome. Did Pep overthink his team? Or did they just play badly? Or, more importantly for this episode, do we have to understand that two things can be true?

The food: Chinch and Steven discuss the relative merits of florentines with either milk or dark chocolate, in what proves to be the most alienating of all the elitist, middle-class conversations we've had over the years.

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