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Voicemails and more thoughts on "Despite Yourself"!
We've had a few days to cool down, and reflect a bit on that shocking twist in the last episode.

9:41 Eric from Pennsylvania (@aerialbass) agrees with Wade, in that he can't decypher what Hugh and James want from the show.  Hugh and James reiterate what they think Discovery's problems are, and how your hosts can better talk about the show is discussed. This goes on for a while.

39:35  Lane, who is definitely a real person, shares his worries about the tone of the show and who the "New Redshirts" might be. 

Is there room for the tone to get lighter and trend more towards Star Trek Ideals?  James and Hugh disagree on what's possible for some of the characters.

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