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Special: Tom Barbalet talks at SRI [July 14, 2010] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.439589
This historical audio is added to the Stone Ape feed for background on the Liz Swan talk. Tom Barbalet talks at SRI on Noble Ape, Biota and the artificial life community. Unfortunately the room mic...
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Short Funk Bonus: Meeting a Hero [April 23, 2015] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.375194
Tom has a new daily podcast http://shortfunk.com/ This is an example of one episode with the subtitle: strategy, that's what it's all about.
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137: Capitalism in the Key of A [December 4, 2015] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.337535
They start with questions from CSB. Tom decides to tackle CSB's question about creating art first. They dig into creating music and what has changed. Does a relationship kill productivity? They exp...
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139: In the Key of A F... F... Fraud [January 8, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.298301
Heron has questions about data and the Internet Archive. Heron gives a hypothesis associated with sexuality: Tom disagrees. Tom returns to a topic from last week and talks about learning Arabic fro...
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142: Bikini Sumo [February 4, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.287342
[Editorial note: This recording was full of technical difficulties that have been removed - hopefully it won't sound too choppy.] Tom asks about Heron's new use of Google Hangouts. Briefly Tom expl...
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148: Epistemological Chicken [May 6, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.264936
Heron might be able to touch-type soon. Tom talks about strange excuses for murder. They talk about Dear Zachary. They discuss OJ in LA. Tom has a confession for Heron and likes the sympathy of lis...
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152. Pain and Irony [July 1, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.257227
The show starts with a mutual reboot of computers to try to improve pretty bad audio. Heron has a question for Tom about Noble Ape (for those reading along http://www.nobleape.com/man/philosophic.h...
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Please Support Stone Ape [July 4, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.254622
This Independence Day I am looking to increase awareness about the independent podcasts I produce. Please consider promoting Stone Ape today as a truely independent podcast. Please click this link ...
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153. A Man Who Has Never Embarrassed Himself to Us [July 8, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.253622
They are recording on Teamspeak. Heron has to kick out the video game players to record a show. They explore live video. Heron wants to explore their new audio platform. Tom raises some listener f...
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155. Technical Word Jive [August 5, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.249463
Heron hasn't fully recovered. They talk about mutual health issues. Tom raises an issue which will cause him to make changes in the Stone Ape feed - what does loyalty, friendship and respect really...
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157. Live from the Hermitage [September 2, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.246716
Tom discovers there is an Earth out there. They briefly discuss Mexican food. Heron wants to explore the hermitage of the mind with a short exploration of Heron's former bad coworker. Can there be ...
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158. Compulsion [September 9, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.245699
Tom points out Heron is one step from Monty Python. They discuss Weiner. Tom stayed up to buy newish phone technology but really more disk space. Heron reminds Tom about a book topic. They discuss ...
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160. World Star Philosophers [October 19, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.242882
Tom explores the potential riots of San Jose and talks about a distant relations. Tom moves to a discussion of story rewriting with medications. Heron won the Sixties. Tom provides two YouTube reso...
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161. Donald [November 9, 2016] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.241329
Heron works through some of his thoughts on the president elect. Tom gives some contrary points and talks about the kinds of analysis needed through this process. The Rolling Stones gave their perm...
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Simulcast Long Funk 1. Introducing the Format [December 9, 2017] from 2022-03-04T00:38:48.238385
Tom introduces the podcast by discussing his many podcasts and what he has learnt from all these recording. To subscribe go to http://www.longfunk.com/
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Reunion: Throw a Monkey Brother A Strange Instrument [October 12, 2018] from 2018-10-12T20:58
Things have changed for Heron in terms of virtual space and health. Things have changed for Tom too. Tom got a lot of hate mail when Stone Ape ended. Heron hasn't left the US yet. Tom and Heron are...
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Simulcast: Noble Ape Sub-Project: the Mushroom Boy [April 2, 2018] from 2018-04-02T20:20
Tom Barbalet, the creator of Noble Ape, talks about the Mushroom Boy sub-project.
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Simulcast: Noble Ape Sub-Project: Noble Warfare [April 2, 2018] from 2018-04-02T19:40
Tom Barbalet, the creator of Noble Ape, talks about the Noble Warfare sub-project.
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Simulcast: Early Morning Weather Development [April 1, 2018] from 2018-04-01T03:20
Tom Barbalet, the creator of Noble Ape, talks about what he's working on at 3am.
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Simulcast: Why is Noble Ape Free? [March 31, 2018] from 2018-03-31T14:56
Tom Barbalet, the creator of Noble Ape, talks about why the software and documentation is free.
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Simulcast Long Funk 4. High Desert War Games [December 27, 2017] from 2017-12-27T21:10:02
Tom is puzzled by the few war gamers who live in the High Desert around Victorville, California. To subscribe go to http://www.longfunk.com/
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162. Socratic Method [November 24, 2016] from 2016-11-24T20:58
Tom reflects on the feedback from listeners and Heron's interpretations. They explore Heron's Gendo Earth Calendar. Tom thinks the RV nomad YouTube community could be a market for Heron's calendar....
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159. Amputee Riot [September 23, 2016] from 2016-09-23T20:57
Tom has a created character for his YouTube toy soldier persona. Heron has seen the Weiner movie and the Woman Who Wasn't There. Tom wants to decompose some ideas. They discuss this idea of hierarc...
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156. Gang Prevention is Not Gang Prevention [August 26, 2016] from 2016-08-26T20:57
Heron is reading on things that Tom has not. Heron asks a question which produces an exploration through exhaustion. Tom turns the conversation to iNfant with some discussion on Bob Mottram's poten...
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154.5 False Flag Feedback [July 22, 2016] from 2016-07-22T20:57
Heron has a quick film recommendation. Tom explains the recording last week in the context of Lorenzo Hagerty's podcast and some blunt listener feedback that was sufficiently eloquent to be conside...
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154. Accidental Gardener [July 15, 2016] from 2016-07-15T20:57
Tom insisted on Skype and he asks about Heron's health. They try to discuss the commercialization proposition in California and why it is different than legalization/decriminalization. Heron likes...
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151. You are Thinking of Ecstasy [June 17, 2016] from 2016-06-17T20:57
Tom is in his podcasting room. Heron has a film recommendation. Tom is taking a seminar and losing his memory. Tom wonders what the benefit is in reading primary sources. Are we living Children of ...
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150. Green Study Survey Company is a Terrorist Group [June 10, 2016] from 2016-06-10T20:57
Tom plays pick this film topic. Heron has been thinking about fortresses of fascism. Tom is about to launch a new podcast. Tom asks why Heron isn't making money from his ideas and provides a San Jo...
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149: Minnesota's Polite TSA [May 27, 2016] from 2016-05-27T20:57
Tom introduces his trip. They talk about UK migration. Tom talks about his time in Leeds and Manchester. They discuss stately homes in the UK. Tom explains his deteriorating mental state. They expl...
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147: Equal Time for Litter [April 22, 2016] from 2016-04-22T20:57
Heron has been pondering his health. Heron wonders about spam. Tom identifies coal mining porn. Tom recommends 'Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father' as the worst documentary of all tim...
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146: Pathologically Defective Bolinas [April 15, 2016] from 2016-04-15T20:57
They spend a minute talking about record stores and news agents. Tom explores Heron's broader audience of clown sushi fetishists. They share a battery problem story. Tom raises if organized religio...
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145: If Bill Exists, He's an Idiot [March 25, 2016] from 2016-03-25T20:57
Heron has been having problems with Skype. Heron isn't doing this for you. Heron has found a potential investor but Tom remains skeptical. Tom has been investigating how to do this music thing. Tom...
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144: The Old Neanderthal Ball [March 4, 2016] from 2016-03-04T20:57
Tom has woken in an alternative universe for a single issue at least. Heron hasn't collected the check from the most money he has made on Gendo in the past fifteen years. Tom ponders the genetic or...
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143: Prepubescent Playboy [February 26, 2016] from 2016-02-26T20:57
Heron thinks we all fit on spectrums. Tom turns the conversation to post-politics. Heron keeps one light bulb around for one purpose. They discuss the impact of pedophiles. Tom has been exploring a...
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141: Short Comings [January 22, 2016] from 2016-01-22T20:57
Heron gives a movie recommendation. Tom provides some feedback on previous Heron recommendations. Heron recommends a nemesis of Tom's and they agree about artificial life. Tom tackles the blue elep...
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140: Twenty Cents Man [January 15, 2016] from 2016-01-15T20:57
Heron is exploring a new direction. Tom talks about a repressed memory. They continue to explore Heron's new direction. Heron finds Tom's response strange. Tom offers a topic of a random listener i...
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Special: Technical Difficulties [January 2, 2016] from 2016-01-02T20:59
Tom tried to get Heron a signed book. Heron has been reflecting on his former love of coke (as in the cola). Tom finds a belated birthday gift. They explore people who don't use technology and look...
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138: Christmas Sloth [December 25, 2015] from 2015-12-25T20:57
[Editorial Note: No summary intro to get the show out on Christmas Day.] Heron has some film recommendations. Tom raises the internet has changed choices for young people. Heron gets cheesy. They b...
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136: Wonder in Windmills [November 27, 2015] from 2015-11-27T20:57
Hacking into Heron identifies the changes in scab technology. Tom has been pondering wonder and using the iPad Pro. The neighborhood is starting to get to Tom. They explore some extended theories a...
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135: Ripping Open the Caterpillar [November 20, 2015] from 2015-11-20T20:57
Tom proposes a slight format change. They discuss a listener question associated with escaping the caterpillar. Tom offers some listener correspondence. Tom starts with the broad topic for the even...
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134: One of the Evil Elves [November 13, 2015] from 2015-11-13T20:57
Heron has been reading Autobiography of a Yogi and has some thoughts about it. Heron outlines Gendo for new listeners and Tom gives some deconstructions. Tom takes a little diversion through WWII m...
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133: Saving the US Economy One Simulated Ape at a Time [October 30, 2015] from 2015-10-30T20:57
Heron wants to whine about life. Tom has been rescuing kittens and thinking about Chilean listeners. Tom talks about principles in podcasting and KickStarter. How about distinctions in various comm...
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132: Please Play This Audio at Target [October 21, 2015] from 2015-10-21T20:57
Heron has changed his mobile and had a chunk of his face removed. Zombified Tom wanders through time management. They explore what's to hate about people in particular us in our past. Tom tries a t...
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131: Humanitarian Bombing [October 2, 2015] from 2015-10-02T20:57
Heron broke 170 pounds. Tom reflects on an interview and the political establishment of San Jose. Tom kicks off a topic on false memories. How do you move to the unknown? Tom had a re-awakening thr...
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130: Jagger and the Whale [September 18, 2015] from 2015-09-18T20:57
Heron had a day of funk. They cast their minds back to 1935. Tom's community has been taking time. Heron had to pledge his elegance. RIP Wiccat. Harold and Maude provides some insight into Tom's ch...
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129: Smoking a Cigarette with the Mouse Head Off [September 4, 2015] from 2015-09-04T20:57
Heron doesn't like being in a group. Should listeners embody this recording? Portland provided some interesting listeners. Tom breaks down some ideas about YouTube. Periscope has gender specific ex...
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128: Please Rage-Quit on Facebook [August 20, 2015] from 2015-08-20T20:57
Tom gives a recap about the previous week's recording. Please rage quit the podcast on Facebook. Please. Metaphysics is defined by Tom at least. With a slight detour through music. Satires of scien...
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127: the End [August 14, 2015] from 2015-08-14T20:57
Editorial Note: Some listeners may find the content of this recording disturbing. Could Tom's professional life contradict Stonean metaphysics? Wolfram is a pensive driver. Can't escape the believe...
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126: Defunct Wienerschnitzel [August 7, 2015] from 2015-08-07T23:57
They start with the usual vaudeville. Tom raises a listener comment about Tom's patience and Heron's irascibility. Let's embrace that we are in the majority associated with complete distrust of the...
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125: Windy Moody and His Monkey [July 30, 2015] from 2015-07-30T23:56
Heron still has friends in the Patriot and Christian communities. Periscope will occasionally be used with these shows. They interpret Alan Watts on YouTube. Tom has been trucking the west coast or...
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124: Steve [July 16, 2015] from 2015-07-16T23:56
Heron wants people to like him. Tom talks about his renovation and his cat's exploration of a mirror. How about dealing with those hippies. Tom and Heron discuss Heron's luck and the many Toms. Wha...
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123: Periscope Down [July 2, 2015] from 2015-07-02T23:56
Heron and Tom explore what Periscope means to the recording. Heron is wondering about the Wittgenstein movie. Heron wants to talk about Periscope some more. Heron has taken his political incorrectn...
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122: Pakistan, Dogs and Sheilas [June 26, 2015] from 2015-06-26T23:56
Heron has a birthday request. Tom raises Heron's audio project. Heron has a bunch of stuff book. Tom raises baby accents. Tom doesn't look like his father. What happens when we forget about prior s...
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121: Regression [June 19, 2015] from 2015-06-19T23:34
Heron is slightly scared thanks to a new listener. Heron and Tom discuss unwanted house guests and provide some film recommendations. Heron is doing some audio editing. Tom tries to understand the ...
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120: Imaginary Cocktail Parties and Johns for FDR [June 4, 2015] from 2015-06-04T23:34
Heron is done with dreaming, perhaps. Heron forgets the last recording. Tom mentions the film, Wittgenstein. What is the purpose of a story? Tom has started his PR experiment. Heron has some ideas ...
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119: Thank You for Being Here [May 29, 2015] from 2015-05-29T22:34
Heron wonders what would happen if Tom's plane(s) crashed. Listener Rick raised interesting questions about the child-friendly nature of Stone Ape. Tom offers some of his Australia experience topic...
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118: Never Do That [May 8, 2015] from 2015-05-08T22:34
Tom and Heron chat on tech. Heron explains his time in Vietnam. For some unknown reason, Heron want to do a take two on the lady parts. Tom might get his kick in the pants he needs. Heron wants to ...
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Simulcast: Tom Barbalet and Bruce Damer Have a Chat [May 3, 2015] from 2015-05-03T22:45
Originally intended for Bruce's Levity Zone podcast, the following recording seemed a better fit for those who were artificial life savvy. Bruce concludes the conversation with how he may be doing ...
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117: Lady Parts [May 1, 2015] from 2015-05-01T22:34
Heron was once a hood. Tom has a curious date paradox and talks about a familial visitor. They discuss their favorite brand. Heron has a particular relationship with Gary David. Tom gives his homew...
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Gendo Simulcast: #850 Gary David [July 22, 2013] from 2015-05-01T20:34
In this rare simulcast from the Gendo podcast, Heron talks with J. Samuel Bois editor Gary David. The pauses have been maintained by request.
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116: Productive Satire [April 17, 2015] from 2015-04-17T22:34
Heron has kept in contact with his high school cohorts and talks suicide. They rap about the history of the computer industry as tens of thousands. Tom asks what happens with the next generation of...
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115: P Word (featuring Tom's Spiritual Advisor) [March 27, 2015] from 2015-03-27T22:34
Tom and Heron talk about paying for software. What happens when people discard recycling of little value? Tom offers some topics from the Chong and Chong Show. A discussion on a purposeful life mov...
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114: Very Particular Kind of Language Monkey [March 20, 2015] from 2015-03-20T22:34
Heron offers Tom some condolences. Tom returns to death as an entry point to the Stonean ethic. Tom has seen the Jinx. [Editorial Note: Tom meant to say the Thin Blue Line as the documentary.] How ...
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113: Genocide Revisited [March 13, 2015] from 2015-03-13T22:34
Heron explores why his taste in movies doesn't seem to follow a pattern and he's offering free pizza. Tom wanders through music for films. Heron thinks he's disassembled Stone Ape so he understands...
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Stone Ape Special: Joe Hanson [March 9, 2015] from 2015-03-09T22:04
Tom chats with Joe Hanson about juggalos, his time with CurrentTV and his brief time on Beauty and the Geek. Joe discusses the writing process on Equals 3 and whether the YouTube revenue model is b...
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112.5: We Will Find Out [February 28, 2015] from 2015-02-28T22:34
Heron had internet problems for their usual recording time. By chance Tom grabbed a few minutes before Model Rail Radio to record an impromptu and short show with Heron. Tom raises theme from a lis...
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112: Snake Sniffing [February 13, 2015] from 2015-02-13T22:34
Heron has notes and his profundity is totally tubular. They rap on homosexuality. Heron reflects on language machine defects. [Editorial note: Liz Swan officially cancelled her podcast collaboratio...
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111: Nose Sucking Civil Rights [February 6, 2015] from 2015-02-06T22:34
Heron was once raised a Catholic. Time traveling Heron is used as an example in terms of technology of consciousness. Heron has been attempting to court philosophy Facebook group participants. Hero...
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Simulcast: Crime Fighting Noble Apes [February 02, 2015] from 2015-02-02T22:45
Tom Barbalet presents a new project using Noble Ape to provide analysis of murder crimes with agent and language simulation.
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Slides: Crime Fighting Noble Apes [February 02, 2015] from 2015-02-02T22:40
Tom Barbalet presents a new project using Noble Ape to provide analysis of murder crimes with agent and language simulation.
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110: Assigned to Somebody [January 30, 2015] from 2015-01-30T22:34
Heron reflects on how single moments can define your life. Heron is fascinated by adaptive text. Tom reflects on the impact of his life on others and the death of a podcaster versus the death of a ...
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109: Pleasantly Subscribed [January 23, 2015] from 2015-01-23T22:34
Heron picked up his artwork. Welcome Salon-ers! No Noble Ape gene unfortunately. Model Rail Radio 100 is extensively discussed. Tom wanders through a variety of topics hinging on what your body is ...
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108: Keep On Shovelin' [January 9, 2015] from 2015-01-09T22:34
Heron is in love with a font [Editorial Note: This is the shortest version of this topic so I have decided to leave it in.] Listener comments move Heron. They explore Thomas' question about minimiz...
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107: Treehouse Blueprint [January 2, 2015] from 2015-01-02T22:34
Tom wishes Heron a Happy Birthday. The listeners have voted and Heron should watch Gremlins. Tom comprehends adoption. How do you deal with angry people? Russell Brand needs to find new insightful ...
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106: They Ran Out of Salsa [December 26, 2014] from 2014-12-26T22:34
Heron is taking his job seriously. They talk about a loss of interest in movies. Heron returns to the alone and quiet. They expand into some broader discussion of Tom's exploration of the dream sta...
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105: Three Hundred Bucks [December 19, 2014] from 2014-12-19T22:34
Heron starts the show asking about Tom's childhood friend who came to stay and living alone. Heron is heading out to resume a winter tradition and wants to talk about his memory. Tom explains how b...
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104: That Pizza is Too Greasy [November 26, 2014] from 2014-11-26T22:32
Heron has been defecting and he wants to analyze it. For those who want to see some classic Single Muslim ads http://youtu.be/hFkG71Hu55I and a Juggalo anthropology documentary http://youtu.be/ulGa...
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Untitled Project #3: Sophistry All the Way Down [November 25, 2014] from 2014-11-25T22:32
Tom starts the discussion talking about the Forensics Science book. http://www.meetup.com/Conscious-in-the-Cloud/events/218785595/ is the meet-up for Tom's talk. What about the philosophy of the de...
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103: High Wattage [November 21, 2014] from 2014-11-21T22:32
Heron is clean shaven and wants to rap about Liz Swan's participation in the new podcast. Tom has been exploring the new Core mathematics in the US http://youtu.be/BxgQYvCPvXg . Tom has a job for t...
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102: Traditional Metaphysical Deity Theology [November 14, 2014] from 2014-11-14T22:32
They start talking about the Liz Swan podcast. Heron has some feedback for the feedback seekers. What about those old folks? Tom had a conversation that was a long time coming. They explore beaches...
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Untitled Project #2: Kant or Won't [November 11, 2014] from 2014-11-11T22:32
Liz and Tom start discussing an improved sound and recovered health. Liz plugs her next book project and Tom talks about his mis-spent yoof. Tom poses a metaphysics problem from simulation. They di...
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101: It Comes Up Even Easier [November 7, 2014] from 2014-11-07T22:32
The McKenna talk (Podcast 421 in the Psychedelic Salon) referenced by Tom is discussed. Heron's pill popping is ritualized as is his alcohol consumption. Tom gives a capitalism 101 on podcast adver...
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100: An Odd Couple [October 30, 2014] from 2014-10-30T21:11
Heron has a new shiny and he likes alarms. How about those Greek philosophers? Could Gendo be used for historical analysis? Tom explores house guests and he's injured himself. Heron is starting a r...
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Untitled Project #1: Pilot [October 21, 2014] from 2014-10-21T22:32
Tom Barbalet and Liz Swan launch a pilot podcast exploring what happened to artificial life? What happened to Colorado? What happened to online identity? And what about those millenials?
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99: Justafunding [October 10, 2014] from 2014-10-10T22:32
Heron has been getting into mice experiments of the mind. Tom provide some editorialization of his experiments on animals and doing audio time travel. Car crash (http://youtu.be/C3fQOm53npw) and id...
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98: The Choosen [October 3, 2014] from 2014-10-03T22:32
Heron has a project for the programming savvy listeners. Tom offers some ebay and speeding ticket advice for Heron. Now for a few minutes of commercial for Heron's art show. Tom outlines his trip f...
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Special: Biota Live #36: the Cathedral and the Spider [October 31, 2008] from 2014-10-03T18:07:01
Discussed in 98. Dick Gordon, Jeffrey Ventrella, Gerald de Jong and Tom Barbalet talk about two dividing topics - religion and spiders.
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Special: Biota Live #35: Spiders - Just Say No [October 17, 2008] from 2014-10-03T18:06
Discussed in 98. Gerald de Jong and Tom Barbalet talk about simulating spiders, open source and what a decade can teach you.
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97: Abusing the Language [September 18, 2014] from 2014-09-18T22:32
Heron is comfortably carrot. Tom predicts the no vote for Scotland and is desperate to find real media. Sheldrake seems so normal these days (http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/rupert-sheldrake)...
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Footnote to 96 [September 6, 2014] from 2014-09-06T10:32
Heron calls Tom on a Saturday morning to discuss the new internet.
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96: A Nipple-Based Career [September 4, 2014] from 2014-09-04T22:32
It always pays to see if your head is in the way. Heron kicks off with a CSB question about games. They wander into sports, capitalism and competition. Heron kicks off a brief discussion on suicide...
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95: Broccoli and Divesting [August 28, 2014] from 2014-08-28T22:32
Tom tells a story for Heron about geometric shapes. Gendo cold calls coming soon? How about those non linguistic language monkeys? Tom gives a story about traveling to sunny Modesto in search of a ...
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94: The Deer Hunter Challenge for Peace on Earth [August 21, 2014] from 2014-08-21T22:32
Heron starts the conversation pondering if a paragraph can disassemble the language machine. Tom explores mores through physical violence and returning to a bad scene. Heron has a list. What about ...
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93: (untitled) [August 7, 2014] from 2014-08-07T22:32
They start discussing Tom Vine's passing. Tom has been experimenting on university educated folks. Based on bad reviews, Tom has be reworking the iOS version of Noble Ape. Tom explores the Islamic ...
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92: We Were Once the Revolutionaries [July 24, 2014] from 2014-07-24T22:32
Tom is being solicited folks who he doesn't know. Heron knows who they are. They rap on Heron's speaking identity and why Heron doesn't have a Wikipedia entry. Tom describes some experiences in squ...
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91: When Bees Discovered Socialism [July 10, 2014] from 2014-07-10T22:32
Tom and Heron take questions from listener Paul. They dive deep into dream experiences and dream interpretation. Tom tries some deconstruction of Heron's language. What's the deal with information ...
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90: San Jose Police and Invaded Nations: Happy July 4th [July 3, 2014] from 2014-07-03T22:32
Tom explains some DJ Master T science. [Editorial note: As with many things in the original edition of Cyberia the naming is incorrect. It is in fact 5-MeO not MAO something like Steve Jobbs (sic)....
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89: The Audience Voted and They've Picked a Winner [June 26, 2014] from 2014-06-26T22:32
Heron has ticked off a life goal thanks to some listener intervention. The best source for Terence McKenna is Lorenzo Hagerty's Psychedelic Salon (http://matrixmasters.net/salon/). How good is the ...
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Special: The Test Print of the Field of Chaos Comic [June 26, 2014] from 2014-06-26T22:31
As this project is long since passed, Tom decided to release the comic test print to the listeners as a belated wedding gift to Marie and Justin.
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88: They Can Do Me Right Next To You [June 13, 2014] from 2014-06-13T21:15
Heron wants to talk about cellular automata. Heron has nothing to say on the Turing test. Tom provides a blueprint for how to approach science journalists and talks about Heron's brother Oliver's U...
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87: If He'd Been an NYU Student [May 29, 2014] from 2014-05-29T21:15
Tom starts with an Elliot Rodger impersonation. Queue Heron's standard response. (Editorial Note: John Zawahri was the Santa Monica shooter from 2013.) Tom has been wandering strange universities. ...
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86: Pure Language Simulation [May 22, 2014] from 2014-05-22T21:15
Tom comes from the new space with his cat's return. Heron wants to explore the language monkey simulation. Get yourself comfortable for this one folks. Bob Mottram raised a point on net neutrality ...
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85: Cottoned On to the Fact [May 15, 2014] from 2014-05-15T21:15
Heron wants to revisit Tom's perspective on net neutrality. Tom has lost a cat and half of himself through the week. They explore the taste of water. Tom starts the re-exploration of squish and the...
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84: Only Getting Plastered With Tom [May 9, 2014] from 2014-05-09T21:15
Tom is recording at his location for the last time. Heron asks Tom about 3d without glasses. How about those computers? This break is brought to you by Sunset Blush. Lex Watson comes up again. What...
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83: Heron's Hermit Hole [April 25, 2014] from 2014-04-25T21:15
Heron enjoyed talking although it just wasn't enough time. Happy to be number 290! Stay tuned for a sliced and diced Stone Ape podcast. Heron is lucky to be alive and a filthy hippy. Tom reflects o...
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82: America's Stolen Generation [April 11, 2014] from 2014-04-11T21:15
Heron has a culinary recommendation for the listeners in the western part of the US. Tom provides an abstract topic about language machine simulations. What role do the eyes play in this simulation...
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81: the Language Man [April 4, 2014] from 2014-04-04T21:14
Heron has started playing his keyboard again thanks to some interest in his keyboard from some music producer dude. Tom wants to explore how useless people really are. Flip floppers are okay by Tom...
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80: Scroll Down [March 28, 2014] from 2014-03-28T21:14
Tom notes his Spiritual Advisor's voice has changed. Mats wanted satisfaction. Heron will be talking to MAPS sometime. Tom has a profound medical experience and he has now seen Easy Rider. They dig...
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79: Mushroom Kundalini [March 14, 2014] from 2014-03-14T21:13
Heron starts on the distant future. Tom raps on Ray K. Heron likes citizenship as a concept and Tom thinks Israel shows some of the paradoxes of Heron's utopia. Tom offers creating a garden and bei...
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78: Furries and Free Stuff [March 7, 2014] from 2014-03-07T21:13
Tom asks about Heron's health. [Editor's note: beef stroganoff was the meal that was available.] Don't sniff green meat. Tom is not using notes going forwards. Heron wants to see a Tom created docu...
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77: Married People Jump Up To Get Starbucks [February 28, 2014] from 2014-02-28T21:13
Heron is a little under the weather. Tom has gone cold turkey. Heron's been listening to Reese Jones and Reese has been listening to Stone Ape. It's a very complex world. Characters in Field of Cha...
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Simulcast: Is Consciousness in the Cloud Evolving? [February 25, 2014] from 2014-02-25T22:45
Reese Jones, Tom Barbalet and a number of other folk provide a discussion around what is consciousness in the context of the internet and cloud computing.
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76: Necessary But Not Sufficient [February 15, 2014] from 2014-02-15T21:13
Heron wants to know about Valentine's Day Barbalet-style and reflects on John Holmdahl some more. Tom and Heron discuss Computer Theology. Tom unrolls the discussion relating to genocide and jokes....
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75: On Purpose [February 7, 2014] from 2014-02-07T21:13
Heron has been stargazing and chatting with the fans. Tom expands on the homework Heron assigned from the week prior. Tom thinks being an intellectual outlier is an important thing. Heron's ideas o...
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74: Pro-Lennon Ghost Gun Marksmen of America [January 31, 2014] from 2014-01-31T21:13
Heron asks after Tom's health. Heron's idea of listeners has changed in the past couple of weeks and he doesn't want to be a guru. What does a language machine for the deaf look like? It might have...
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73: Hold on to Your Hair Pieces [January 17, 2014] from 2014-01-17T21:12
Heron talks about the Christie Bridge Scandal. Solipsism sucks but it is turtles all the way down. De-programming anyone? Don't invite Tom to a social event. Tom has been in retreat. Tom launches a...
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72: Although the Breasts were Subtle [January 3, 2014] from 2014-01-03T21:12
Tom wishes Heron a belated happy birthday. Heron talks about the second year of his sabbatical relating to fleshing out some of the more advanced concepts in his language machine deconstruction gui...
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Stone Ape Special: the Puppet Show [December 31, 2013] from 2013-12-31T20:11
Tom chats with Stone Ape listener Marty Fisher (Flip the Angry Asian on YouTube). They start in a topic framed by Marty associated with traditional values' meaning quickly moving into Ma Lanza's re...
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71: No Such Thing [December 27, 2013] from 2013-12-27T21:11
Heron starts the show talking about backing up options. They fly into 2013 trends in review. Does the NSA know who Heron and Tom are? Can Christmas be written off as a social, capitalist or religio...
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70: Two-Valued-Logic Never Knows [December 22, 2013] from 2013-12-22T21:11
Tom and Heron are recording Sunday afternoon for a change and rap about typewriters. There is a general digression into fruit factory love. The Center for Applied Epistemology will have a website i...
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69: Sex-Bomb Longstocking [December 13, 2013] from 2013-12-13T21:11
Heron isn't going nuts. Maybe. Heron wants to talk about Mandela again and opines about the quality of journalism. Tom starts with a series of questions from new listener, Timothy. Humor joins some...
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68: Preach Brother Heron [December 6, 2013] from 2013-12-06T21:11
Heron starts the show talking about five thousand or so unique IPs downloading the show. Lorraine asks a question about simulation and Gaia. Chris Abbott's questions are revisited. Tom has been lis...
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Repeat Biota.org Live #74: Pushing the Boundaries [November 6, 2010] from 2013-12-06T21:09
Tom talks with Eric Burton about Critterdrug. Tom references Eric's work through 68.
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67: Lorraine Asks [November 29, 2013] from 2013-11-29T21:10
Lorraine has provided the questions this evening. Tom confesses his war on lip smacking. Heron rolls out his most disappointing comets of all time. Without a good internet connection, Heron is lost...
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66: Stupidity Redux [November 22, 2013] from 2013-11-22T23:10
Heron's actually been going to the Facebook page. Thanks to the listeners promoting the show. Tom gives a critical review on Heron's appearance on KMO's Vault podcast. They rap on the occult. Chris...
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65: Give Us Something We Can Chew On [November 15, 2013] from 2013-11-15T23:39
Heron likes the Stone Ape format. Heron needs a technological communication update. Tom digs deeper into damn skippy. Tom gives an account of early Twitter interacting with Google. Tom recommends a...
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64: Cement [November 8, 2013] from 2013-11-08T23:39
Heron asks about Tom's cat. Tom kicks off the show with a Marie Camacho question to each host. Tom moves from mail order shirts to California law. Tom offers part three of what we should do relatin...
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63: Alpha Ducks [November 1, 2013] from 2013-11-01T23:39
Heron is faking it or perhaps is fracking it. Tom offers another thing that needs to change. We have computers so we don't need politicians. Tom provides a critical review of his Conscious in the ...
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Simulcast: Tom Barbalet on Self-Conscious Noble Apes [October 28, 2013] from 2013-10-28T22:44
Tom Barbalet presents the final talk at Conscious in the Cloud in response to the prior Conscious in the Cloud talk with Larry Yaeger.
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62: Things Are About to Get Funky [October 25, 2013] from 2013-10-25T23:39
Heron and Tom rap on Russell Brand. Tom raises the issue of double tap drone strikes and why young folks need to be mentored. The NSA should have done the health care website. Heron brings up room ...
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61: P. Coil and his Singing Cat [October 11, 2013] from 2013-10-11T23:39
Heron kicks off the show with some basics. Tom has one question for President Obama but not for his local Congresswoman. Tom provides a portrait of the insanity of health care in the US. Heron want...
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60: Distinct from the Mob [September 27, 2013] from 2013-09-27T23:38
Heron hopes he offended someone but neither of them can remember what he said. Tom clearly doesn't like Australians. He hates everyone. Get used to it. What does a regular day look like in a post-S...
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59: Designed at Gunpoint [September 20, 2013] from 2013-09-20T23:38
Tom had technical difficulties starting the call but he starts out with some disturbing photos for Heron to consider. Tom digresses into stories from the UK and an early Heron childhood story. Tom ...
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58: Less than One Percent [September 13, 2013] from 2013-09-13T23:38
Tom asks the listeners for more topics and throws into the Australian election. It turns out Tom is a 9/11 expert. Heron explores the military in an ideal world. They won't be taking callers going ...
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57: Just Like 9/11 [August 30, 2013] from 2013-08-30T23:38
Heron thinks diversity is okay. Heron needs to accept his new status. They explore the brain-damaged language monkey scum. Tom offers some discussion on advanced Stonean concepts. Tom talks about a...
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56: Schmucks [August 23, 2013] from 2013-08-23T23:38
Heron admits to being a rabid language monkey for a day thanks to Time-Warner. Heron wants to get the listeners on to Teamspeak but Tom thinks Heron should go to the listeners. Tom raises a listene...
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Biota Simulcast: Artificial Life in the Cloud [August 19, 2013] from 2013-08-19T22:08
Tom Barbalet brings the C-Realm's KMO and Polyworld's Larry Yaeger together to discuss artificial life in the cloud. The audience presents questions to the three participants and the ethics of arti...
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Special: Expanding Mind - Conscious in the Cloud [August 11, 2013] from 2013-08-11T23:38
Erik Davis' show on the Progressive Radio Network is taken over by Tom Barbalet and KMO. The State will never be the same again.
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55: Dolly [August 9, 2013] from 2013-08-09T23:38
Heron explores the crying child. Tom found a body while walking. Heron does well in trouble. Tom ponders how you unseat a monarchy. Tom received an interesting letter and wants to create Skateopia ...
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54: Honest Abe [August 2, 2013] from 2013-08-03T23:37
Heron can't combine Facebook and Skype. The eagles are nearly cruising down the highway. (Editorial note: Tom misspells Pallas cat.) They explore television versus Ray K. Heron and Tom may open the...
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Biota Simulcast: A Chat Between Three Toms [June 29, 2013] from 2013-08-03T17:08
Three Toms get together to discuss Reddit and artificial life, two of the Toms introduce their backgrounds, Tom Barbalet answers questions from Reddit on Noble Ape and they talk about how to create...
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53: Babies Washing Their Hands [July 19, 2013] from 2013-07-19T23:35
Heron may soon be puppy-less. So he raises genetic perfection and talks about burning bits of his head. Tom offers the social contract relating to sexuality. Tom talks about California prisons. The...
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52: The Way, A Way and Genocide [July 12, 2013] from 2013-07-12T23:35
Heron is okay. Heron provides a puppy update. He has some ideas about raising children versus raising puppies. It's stunning Tom lets him rap on this for so long. Tom must be tired. Peter Stempel s...
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51: K [June 30, 2013] from 2013-06-30T23:35
Tom and K talk about professional podcasting, books and cats. Tom raises the effects of PG-13 on the zombie movie. They discuss domestic armed drones and what happened to the news.
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50: Hot [June 28, 2013] from 2013-06-28T23:35
It's hot in both the south San Francisco Bay and Los Angeles. Heron is really a nice guy. Honest. Heron likes puppies. What more do you need to know you damn language monkey! Tom is concerned that ...
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49: For Meaningful Interest, Add Ricin [June 21, 2013] from 2013-06-21T23:35
Heron likes to watch puppies and talking about the squeeze machine as it relates to particular sexual interests. Sometimes for Tom, Ray is okay. Freeman Dyson is the physicist's name. The NSA just ...
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48: Country Fried President with a Large Serve of Kids [June 7, 2013] from 2013-06-07T23:35
Tom is concerned about his call recording solution. Don't you dare call Heron enlightened, damn it. Heron is an ephemeris aficionado. Tom asserts the pathology of time. Babies prefer iPads. Tom doe...
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47: Mummified P3n1s [May 31, 2013] from 2013-05-31T23:34
Tom's call recording software disappeared. They talk about missing a week. Tom digs into the comic book project. What is Heron's Facebook message? They return to the blueprint of 1982. Tom explores...
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46: Resting on a Promise [May 17, 2013] from 2013-05-17T23:34
Heron throws in a couple of topics - Tb drives and he watched Snowtown. Tom asks if murder is a hard line like psychedelics for example. They dig deep into substances. Tom raises self-fulfilling co...
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45: Not So Rascally Language Monkey Scum [May 10, 2013] from 2013-05-10T23:34
Tom starts the show by noting that there is no time limit. They talk about Tom's Origin of Mind chapter and the importance of English. Heron in Squish is dead. Joe the Drummer asks if the monkey mi...
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Stone Ape Special: A Late Night Wander through Tom's Bedside Bookshelves from 2013-05-09T22:36
Tom presents some of the books he has read and some he is yet to read. Most of these books will be given away shortly as part of the book cleansing.
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44: Zeroth Glass Topic [May 3, 2013] from 2013-05-03T22:34
Tom raises the Sunset Blush quotient and the Facebook group. Heron is pleased to have contributed to Steve's life. Tom would like the listeners to participate. The NRA and Heron have the same targe...
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43: Go Project [April 26, 2013] from 2013-04-26T22:32
Heron and Tom will talk about racism. They cover some follow-up issues from last week. Tom found himself presenting Gendo from the ground up. They discuss how Tom silenced his inner narrative. Tom ...
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42: Get Help [April 19, 2013] from 2013-04-19T22:32
Heron may be celebrating by himself. Tom floats 'Heron in Squish'. They discuss the Chechen conflict in terms of the quality of propaganda. Heron likes sipping lattes. Tom thinks the Stone Ape list...
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Special: Journal Notes for #42 Get Help [April 19, 2013] from 2013-04-19T22:31
These are the concise pages used for the show.
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41: Make Your Own Highchair! [April 13, 2013] from 2013-04-13T22:32
They start the discussion with pushback introductions. Redundancy and tautology don't mean the same thing to linguists. Tom explores Heron's journals. Heron requests this process is done more forma...
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40: Simian Slim [April 5, 2013] from 2013-04-05T22:31
Heron likes to live virtually like the Pope. Tom wants to see Heron's early writing. Tom leaves surprises for himself. Tom discovered being a nerd who liked women was okay as a repressed memory. To...
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Special: Heron's Journal [March 3 to December 29, 1988] from 2013-04-05T22:31
More text than can be meaningfully explored in a simple description.
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Special: Heron's Journal [July 1979 to June 28, 1982] from 2013-04-05T22:30
More text than can be meaningfully explored in a simple description.
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39: Let Me Repair Your Rifle [March 29, 2013] from 2013-03-29T22:31
Heron starts the show reminding people what they should already know. Tom explores the Art of Living as a secular organization. Heron notes the self has a birthday about five hundred years ago and ...
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38: When Scouts get Lost [March 22, 2013] from 2013-03-22T22:31
Heron talks about his recent opiate experience. Tom is pleased to talk about a lunch with Bruce Damer. They discuss falling out with the mushroom. Tom doesn't like futurists with clean hands. The c...
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37: And Somehow [March 15, 2013] from 2013-03-15T22:31
Tom and Heron start on a long list of topics. Tom introduces the comic book project as it continues to evolve. Heron and Tom discuss the lesser known substances of legal means and some that are les...
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36: Elementary Sobriety Test [March 8, 2013] from 2013-03-08T22:31
Heron defines his year in advance and how he's taking a year off to focus his vision. Tom raises the monkey and discusses some truck he has with Kickstarter. They talk about breaking the ceiling of...
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35: Six out of Seven [March 1, 2013] from 2013-03-01T22:30
Heron starts by talking about how he can be more obnoxious. Heron defines his year in terms of physical existence. Tom raises guns as an experience. They move into comics and Kickstarters. Somehow ...
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34: Breaking a Silence [February 22, 2013] from 2013-02-22T22:30
Tom and Heron resume the discussion talking about fourteen months of missing history. Tom starts with the deconstruction of whether he does artificial life still having attended a conference with o...
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33: the Lost Recording [October 27, 2011] from 2012-03-18T10:57
Tom mention he has moved. He asks about Heron's general progress over the past months. Tom talks about applied Stonean theory and the brutalizing effects of change. They discuss technology perturbi...
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32: Just Give Me Some Tooth [May 25, 2011] from 2011-05-25T20:07
Tom asks about Heron's simplifying life. Tom offers some discussion on dry survivalism. Tom floats the idea of fifteen years ago to towels. They discuss the idea that writing is the degrading prese...
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31: Barbalet's Cat [April 20, 2011] from 2011-04-20T20:07
Tom asks about Heron's health and the learning community project. They discuss internal monologues in simulation. Tom raises the pathology of podcasting that digresses into a discussion of post-apo...
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30: Learning Community [April 6, 2011] from 2011-04-06T20:08
Heron starts the discussion talking about music, his health and talking. Tom provides updates on his writing. They talk about the next laptop and views into technology. Tom offers turning down spon...
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29: Heron Has A Posse [March 14, 2011] from 2011-03-14T20:07
Heron starts asking about a special day. Tom offers two films for discussion and how Heron can use his knowledge for good. Tom also decompresses his writing for good. They talk about Heron's ever-c...
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28: There Is Hope [February 22, 2011] from 2011-02-22T20:07
Heron starts by talking about what is on television. Tom recounts his time in the San Francisco Bay Area and finally launching the 1993 writing, Field of Chaos. Tom explains to Heron discovering li...
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Special: Tom Barbalet on Salt Lake City K-Talk's Sector Five [February 19, 2011] from 2011-02-19T20:10
Tom appears on Sector Five on Salt Lake City's K-Talk. The audio is taken directly from their archive including regional radio ads (for some local flavor). This audio is being distributed on both t...
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27: Because I am Close to the Edge [February 2, 2011] from 2011-02-02T20:07
Tom starts talking about a telephone survey and using the internet to deal with telephone harassment. Heron offers an idea for the children of the future. Tom talks about double speed listening and...
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26: Anti-dis-endumbening [January 25, 2011] from 2011-01-25T20:07
Tom starts with an apology and disappointment with a film director conversation. They discuss anime and cultural anomalies. Tom offers a nerd impersonation and a concern relating to his lowering in...
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25: A Southern Californian Miracle [January 12, 2011] from 2011-01-12T20:07
Tom starts the show talking about Chris Abbott and Gerald de Jong. They explore mixed feelings of Las Vegas. Tom raises the fact that Heron is instigating terror with his questions of language. Tom...
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24: Fate [January 3, 2011] from 2011-01-03T20:07
Heron starts by asking about Tom's audio setup and then they talk about the name of the podcast. Tom raises a listener topic on fate, digresses into his formal studies and their experiences of acad...
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23: Bonobo Future [December 8, 2010] from 2010-12-08T21:07
Heron starts talking about Facebook ads. Tom floats the new name for the podcast. They discuss pharmacology versus psychology. Tom raises the phylum of the monkey Heron observes. They talk about wh...
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22: Physics Pimp [December 1, 2010] from 2010-12-01T21:07
Heron starts the conversation talking about gratitude and combination locks. Heron sets an assignment for the listeners. Tom talks about a particular way of learning stuff and the ongoing Stone Ape...
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21: Out Already [November 17, 2010] from 2010-11-17T21:07
Tom starts with a couple of updates on the breakdown of self-publishing and Facebook ads. They discuss the next thirty to fifty years. Tom raises the issue of discomfort and change. Heron wanders i...
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20: Slowest Campaign Ever [November 10, 2010] from 2010-11-10T21:07
Heron kicks off the discussion talking about being a schmuck in society. Tom re-acquaints himself with Heron's hero and explores the Eastern tradition. Heron talks about the need for a champion for...
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19: New England Gaming Vegas with Jonathan Reinhart [October 31, 2010] from 2010-10-31T21:07
Tom introduces the format of the show to guest, Jonathan Reinhart, host of the CWF GameCast. They discuss their introductions to wargaming. Tom asks about the history of the CWF Forums. (Jonathan's...
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18: Embrace the Irritability [October 26, 2010] from 2010-10-26T21:07
Heron starts talking about appealing to spiritual teachers and spam. Heron protests the use of the term Heronisms. (Tom's audio is patchy.) Tom raises the idea of not speaking French with a French ...
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17: Boys Night In [October 21, 2010] from 2010-10-21T21:07
Heron starts with falling down by choice and asks about Tom's view of the future. Tom explains the Australian brain drain. Heron discovers Tolkien. Tom introduces the first question from a listener...
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15: Scars of Work [October 12, 2010] from 2010-10-12T21:07
Heron and Tom start talking about work and being worked to death. Tom offers the KMO chat as a point of discussion. Tom floats his interest in backwards music. Heron raises the unscripted topic of ...
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14: Zombies, Call Me Kevin with KMO [October 9, 2010] from 2010-10-09T12:07
Tom introduces the format of the show to guest, KMO (or Kevin O'Connor as he is known to his friends on Facebook), host of the C-Realm podcast. Tom kicks off talking about 9/11. (Tom's example of t...
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13: Airborne Language Monkey Deities [October 5, 2010] from 2010-10-05T21:07
Heron and Tom start talking about health and airborne disease transmissions. Tom discusses airline subsidies versus actual holidays. Tom asks Heron how he will attract the thinkers. Tom continues t...
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12: Film Reviews [September 21, 2010] from 2010-09-21T21:07
The initial greeting audio was cut. Heron starts the discussion talking about his change in lifestyle based on external demands. They talk about communes for the wealthy. Heron raises the ongoing l...
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11: Open Cosplay Discussion with Traci Portillo [September 20, 2010] from 2010-09-20T21:07
Tom introduces the format of the show to guest, Traci Portillo. They continue to discuss the International Game Developers' Association and role playing games (computer and other). Tom offers an in...
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10: The Mirror [September 14, 2010] from 2010-09-14T21:07
Tom introduces the idea of the mirror through the film Shine or at least Tom's connection to the film. Heron raises the distinction between British aristocracy and trailer trash. Tom talks about do...
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9: Tanks for Community Radio [September 7, 2010] from 2010-09-07T21:06
Heron starts the show talking about short hair. Tom asks about Heron's experience of the 1980s. Heron talks about community radio and Roy of Hollywood. In terms of a history of Silicon Valley, Fire...
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8: Fish, a Dead Cat and Disobedient Avatars [August 24, 2010] from 2010-08-24T21:06
Heron starts by talking about his lazy experiences of Vietnam and compares family experiences with Tom. They both explore the idea of high school defining the antithesis of reality. Tom offers the ...
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7: Experiments in Information [August 17, 2010] from 2010-08-17T21:06
Heron raises the idea of the machine versus the computer. Tom explores pedantry and pharmacology versus psychology. The conversation then move into the perspective of history and possibly understan...
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6: Dolphin versus Rat [August 10, 2010] from 2010-08-10T21:06
Download numbers start the topics closely followed by the general format of the show going on. Tom volunteers his thoughts about personal productivity and the failure of the TED conferences. Tom th...
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5: Dreaming versus the World [August 3, 2010] from 2010-08-03T21:06
Heron starts the conversation talking about dreaming and inspiration. Tom offers the idea that Terence McKenna can teach you a lot about constructive dreaming. The conversation moves to Paux (North...
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4: Stalkers, Start Dreaming [July 27, 2010] from 2010-07-27T21:06
Tom starts the show by talking about anonymity and stalkers. Heron asks how many people came to listen to Tom in the Bay Area. They both explore the ideas of language and the (potential of the) sel...
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3: Framing the King [July 20, 2010] from 2010-07-20T21:06
Tom starts the show by talking about the way information is framed is as important as the information itself in may cases. Heron continues with his experience of computer history in 1983. Tom talks...
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2: Wise Dogs and Futurists [July 6, 2010] from 2010-07-06T21:06
Heron starts the discussion on teaching and understanding language. The conversation continues into Heron's experiences in Vietnam and Tom's experiences in Malaysia. This conversation moves back in...
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1: Squishing the Matrix [June 29, 2010] from 2010-06-29T21:06
Tom kicks off the discussion about online identities and Heron's thoughts on creating an online identity and the distinctions between squish and the matrix. They move on to discuss voting and the d...
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0: The Pilot [June 19, 2010] from 2010-06-19T21:06
Tom Barbalet introduces himself to Heron Stone and offers a Noble Ape 101 on his work. Tom discusses the information dark age that we appear to be entering. Heron and Tom then riff on the power of ...
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0: The Pilot [June 19, 2010] from 2010-06-19T21:06
Tom Barbalet introduces himself to Heron Stone and offers a Noble Ape 101 on his work. Tom discusses the information dark age that we appear to be entering. Heron and Tom then riff on the power of ...
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