Podcasts by Sumn to Say
Returning in 2021. Since 2018, Sum'n to Say has discussed and debated notable events in Southern hip-hop and R&B, right out the SWATS. Hosts Jah, Yoh and Christina draw from their experiences as Atlanta-based music journalists, their memories of growing up below the Mason-Dixon and whatever libations may be on hand. Produced by Michael Saba: https://www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba
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The Legacy Route (w/ Taylor Crumpton) from 2020-11-30T13:00:22
Edit: This is our season 3 finale. See y'all in 2021.
When we talk about Southern rap’s evolution, we tend to focus on Atlanta’s contributions in particular. Cultural critic Taylor Crumpto...
Icefinity War: The Gucci Mane-Jeezy Verzuz Recap from 2020-11-23T21:29:13
After feuding for 15 or 20 years (hell, they argued over that too), Gucci Mane and Jeezy met at Magic City to settle the score by way of Verzuz. We wrap our heads around the night that was part reu...
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From Nujabes to Atlantis (w/ Chester Watson) from 2020-11-16T13:10:19
Chester Watson released his new album 'A Japanese Horror Film' this past Halloween. Halloween was a Saturday this year, though as the music makes clear, he navigates time and space by his own rules...
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Who is T.I. Doing This Verzuz? from 2020-10-26T12:00:26
"We hear T.I.'s voice all the time. And depending on your perspective, sometimes we've heard too much of T.I.'s voice," says Jah. This week we debate whether his new album, The L.I.B.R.A., is essen...
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Sum'n to Replay: T.I's Preaching to Pushers and Proletariats from 2020-10-19T12:00:34
We'll be back with a new episode next week. Until then, in honor of T.I.'s new album The L.I.B.R.A., we're bringing back Episode 9 (!) from 2018, exploring 'Trap Muzik' 15 years later. Support for ...
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How OutKast Split the Atom in 'Stankonia' 20 Years Ago from 2020-10-12T16:10:39
Once OutKast got its 5-mic review in The Source, what else was left to do? As Jah put it, the resulting sound wasn't Organized Noize — it was disorganized, to its biggest mainstream successes yet. ...
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The Savage Mode 2 Spooktacular from 2020-10-05T17:25:45
On one hand, 21 Savage and Metro Boomin double down on what made them bankable stars in the first place. But those searching for the introspection that earned 21 Grammy nods might only find dust an...
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Baby Keem's Mystery Machine from 2020-09-28T12:00:34
This week we attempt to solve some mysteries, from Kanye West's war against Universal and Sony [6:24] to Baby Keem's new deal with Kendrick Lamar and Dave Free as label bosses [29:17]. We also chec...
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Freestyles Still Matter. Ask Mulatto. from 2020-09-21T12:00:38
In her 2020 XXL Freshman freestyle, Mulatto says, “Who else do you know that came from a TV show, turned down a deal and still taking off?” We talk about all the twists and turns in her career, fro...
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Sum'n to Hear: God Bless Nick Grant from 2020-09-14T12:00:23
It's disappointing when an artist's debut project doesn't match the hype, like when Nick Grant, a lyricist by trade, raps about cufflinks in 2017's 'Return of the Cool.' But 2020's 'God Bless the C...
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In Our Feelings from 2020-09-07T12:00:30
This episode is different because these times are difficult. We're not talking new releases. Instead, Jah tasked us with creating five-song EPs that actually speak to how we're feeling right now. W...
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The Howard University of Frat Rap from 2020-08-31T12:00:37
By now it's easy to take Young Money's biggest success stories for granted. But we should remember how strange it was a decade ago to see Lil Wayne handpick his successors. We revisit the strange f...
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Oh Well... I'm So Contentious from 2020-08-24T12:00:47
Our original plan this week was to release a throwback episode. But we were so disheartened by the current state of affairs, from Megan Thee Stallion being called a snitch (4:09) to Pharrell and Ja...
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Wet Ass Popeyes from 2020-08-17T12:00:25
The alternate title to this episode, about Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's "WAP," is "J. Edgar Jenner." We react to the reactions surrounding the first instant classic of 2020.
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Hot Girl Bummer 2: Revenge of the Bummer from 2020-08-10T12:00:32
Between "Savage" and Quarantine Radio, Megan Thee Stallion and Tory Lanez were behind some of America's greatest quarantine pastimes. Then there was a shooting. We discuss how, between the tasteles...
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Stranger Things from 2020-08-03T12:00:36
Exactly how well can a posthumous album reflect the artist in question? We compare the new Pop Smoke and Juice WRLD to the closest hip-hop has seen to a platonic ideal: Notorious B.I.G.'s Life Afte...
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Lil Babies 'R' Us from 2020-03-09T12:00:20
There are two types of people. Yoh and Christina are Lil Baby people. They think that twinge of sadness in his voice makes you root for him, which makes the resolve in his lyrics all the more satis...
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K Camp's Unlikely Jackpot from 2020-03-02T13:43:10
Weeks after The New York Times discovered Renegade dance creator Jalaiah Harmon, we discuss the song that inspired it all. Yes, we're talking "Lottery (Renegade)" by K Camp, the 2015 XXL Freshman ...
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Wastemen Not, Want Not: Jah's Guide to UK Rap from 2020-02-24T13:00:20
The UK rap scene is reaching critical mass. Jah has noticed, as he's dropped albums like Little Simz's 'GREY Area' in the group text. But when will the States embrace rap in the Queen's English, em...
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Tyga's Nine Lives from 2020-02-17T13:00:30
Fun fact: One artist who has more monthly Spotify listens than Chris Brown, J. Cole, Kanye West, Kendrick Lamar and Lil Wayne is... Tyga. Against our better judgment, we discuss how he inexplicably...
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No Time for Losers ('Cause Khaled's a Champion) from 2020-02-10T13:00:20
Ten years ago rap game's Adam Sandler released his crowning achievement: a winning jock jam. But could his playbook use an update? We revisit “All I Do is Win” and how DJ Khaled has suffered from s...
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Unlock the Swag (w/ Marz and Ducko McFli) from 2020-02-03T13:00:10
Just when we had grown accustomed to trap becoming the post-recession soundtrack of our lives, we now had to figure out how to pronounce “Rae Sremmurd.” Ebro would rather have pulled the covers ove...
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Snowed Out: Revisiting 'The State vs. Radric Davis' and 'Til the Casket Drops' from 2019-12-05T13:00:33
Ten years ago next week, just when Clipse managed to escape label purgatory and release an album without years of delays ('Til the Casket Drops'), Gucci Mane confirmed his status as the South's new...
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We'd Like to Thank Our Moms from 2019-11-28T13:00:03
It's that time of year again! The Recording Academy announces its Grammy nominees, and hip-hop complains that the Grammys just don't understand. We debate whether these trophies still matter and re...
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Why Refinance, When You Can Refinesse? ('Parasite' Film Review) from 2019-11-21T13:00:33
'Parasite' intrigued Jah and Christina so much, they saw it again in theaters. They also insisted that Yoh join them. If you've seen this Bong Joon-ho film, and you're obsessing over every detail a...
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Summer Walker is Over It. Now What? (w/Clarissa Brooks) from 2019-11-14T13:00:23
QT is the Patreon tier where supporters ask us a question that we tackle in a future episode. (Find out more at patreon.com/sumntosay.)
This week patron and longtime listener Jalen K. Wri...
Patreon Unlocked: Getting Back to the Roots from 2019-11-07T20:25
Ain't Gon' Let Up is our Patreon tier where folks can request an episode topic, for any verse, song, album or event taking place in hip-hop and R&B, in the South or otherwise. Find out more at pat...
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How DJ OHSO's Life Got Twisted Upside Down (w/DJ OHSO) from 2019-10-31T12:00:42
DJ OHSO was working at a call center when she stumbled across a Will Smith interview saying, "What's the point of a plan B? It distracts you from a plan A." As this episode's special guest, she exp...
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Sum'n to Hear: Get a GRIP from 2019-10-24T12:00:22
Bringing back Sum'n to Hear, where Jah, Yoh and Christina discuss the newcomers who have caught their attention. This month we discuss GRIP's 'Snubnose,' a full-length exploration of how the allure...
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Ten Years of Wale. Wow... That's Crazy from 2019-10-17T12:10:52
In his 2009 debut 'Attention Deficit,' Wale wants to be it all: a blog darling who can cross over, the DMV native who can carry go-go's torch. We revisit those impossible expectations and discuss h...
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I'm DaBaby, Gotta Love Me! from 2019-10-10T12:00:14
In the time it takes to listen to a DaBaby project, we debate his past life as a Jesus-worshiping Rich Homie Quan soundalike, the best and worst guests on 'KIRK,' and where the Energizer Bunny of h...
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No Ray J Required from 2019-10-03T12:00:24
We've never received an episode request like this. This week producer Michael Saba asked us to discuss how the influence of Phil Collins has played out in '808s and Heartbreak,' intros by Meek Mill...
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Debate Me, Nerd: The Most Influential Hip-Hop City of 2019 from 2019-09-26T12:00:25
Hip-hop history is about how the sphere of influence has migrated, from the East Coast to the West Coast, Midwest to the South. Yoh, Jah and Christina attempt to figure out where that sphere of inf...
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Sum'n to Hear: Pretty Girls 18-Wheelin' in the Trap from 2019-09-19T12:00:15
Introducing Sum'n to Hear, where Jah, Yoh and Christina discuss the newcomers who have caught their attention.
This month's playlist features: Benny the Butcher's "18 Wheeler," Maxo Kream...
Rich Gang's Super Saiyan Swagger from 2019-09-12T12:00:15
The tour itself didn't actually exist. No one was fluent in the Blanguage. And with its DJ interludes, this mixtape could never be mistaken for an album. Yet as we rediscover, Rich Homie Quan and Y...
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Hot Girl Bummer from 2019-09-05T13:01:36
What makes a perfect song of the summer? We reunite to launch season 3 with Chance hats on, debate the merits of Megan Thee Stallion's “Hot Girl Summer,” and submit our picks for 2019: “Act Up” by ...
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Think It's A Game?!?! w/ YFN Lucci from 2019-07-25T11:43:10
On the season finale of Sum'n To Say the gang sits down with Atlanta rapper YFN Lucci to talk about his experience growing up in the city, his journey through the music industry, and his new Gangst...
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The Thrilling Delusion Cruise of 'Teflon Don' from 2019-07-18T12:00:04
The opening line to 'Teflon Don' — “I'm not a star” — was a punchline in of itself. In the aftermath of being sued by the actual Freeway Rick Ross and outed as a correctional officer, Rick Ross bec...
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Patreon Unlocked: Confessions, Pt. IGOR from 2019-07-11T12:00:14
We used to avoid Tyler, the Creator for how he'd lash out in homophobic and misogynistic anger. But in due time, anyone can learn how to process their emotions differently, to where grief can actua...
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The Ghetty Green New Deal from 2019-07-04T12:00:19
J. Cole, Cardi B and Drake interpolate his lyrics. Gucci Mane and 21 Savage wouldn't exist without him. But before that, Project Pat was an underground sensation setting the tone for Memphis hardco...
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DG Yola Never Let Up from 2019-06-27T12:00:14
Jah's list of all-time favorite records goes something like this: “Purple Rain.” “Thriller.” “Ain't Gon' Let Up.” We time-travel back to 2006, when DG Yola's self-help to steel drums (“Go get your ...
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D.O.D.O.A. (Death of 'Death of Auto-Tune') from 2019-06-20T12:00:09
Back when Southern artists went platinum off a ringtone, and hip-hop's birthplace was notably absent from radio, Jay Z fired off "Death of Auto-Tune." We reflect on how this anticlimactic warfare f...
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Keep Your Drums, Pimp C, Keep Your Drums from 2019-06-13T12:00:26
What began as an overlooked Project Pat single reemerged in 2007 as the definitive hip-hop wedding song. We look back at how UGK, Three 6 Mafia and OutKast formed a perfect union with "Int'l Player...
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Make America Buck Again from 2019-06-06T12:00:05
Crime Mob weren't adults when they arrived in the scene. They drowned in their tall tees. We revisit how, against all odds, this teen group came in the club, shaking their dreads, to create the sou...
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Patreon Unlocked: Holy MF Doom, Batman! from 2019-05-30T12:30:07
This is a Patreon-exclusive episode, but it's so good that we had to unlock it to share it with everyone. If you're interested in listening to more patron-only content like this, consider contribut...
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Waka Flocka Seagulls from 2019-05-23T12:37:13
When Waka Flocka Flame said, “Drug dealing music / I influence,” he had no idea how right he'd be. We discuss how he and Lex Luger's straight brown liquor energy shook up the music industry ten yea...
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How Jermaine Dupri, Ludacris and T.I. Welcomed Us to Atlanta from 2019-05-16T13:05:46
Today Jermaine Dupri and Ludacris' smiling faces appear on a giant digital screen at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport to greet the 275,000 passengers flying in on a daily basis. Thi...
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TLC and the Perils of the Passenger Side from 2019-05-09T13:34:09
The term "scrub" wasn't always gender-specific. But in 1999, TLC, Kandi Burress and Tameka Cottle rewrote the definition to put the patriarchy on notice. Jah, Yoh and Christina revisit how "No Scru...
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Soulja of Fortune from 2019-05-02T13:00:29
You could call it a stroke of luck: how Soulja Boy invented clickbait when he had unsuspecting Limewire users downloading "Donk" instead of the latest Britney Spears single. But to quote Yoh, "Cran...
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Missy Elliott Has Been That Bitch from 2019-04-25T14:00:14
Even Missy Elliott once feared the sophomore slump. We discuss how she answered to that fear 20 years ago: She watched The Matrix, called up Hype Williams and delivered a feminist manifesto called ...
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Lil Nas Jesus from 2019-04-18T13:01:10
The American Dream suggests that anyone here can achieve anything, as long as you work hard. Thanks to Lil Nas X, the American Dream could be summed up even more succinctly: Can't nobody tell me no...
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At the Mercy of 2 Chainz from 2019-04-11T13:05:34
Once upon a time at Club Frequency, Jah used to always see this tall ass dude with long ass braids wearing an itty bitty shirt. The rapper previously known as Tity Boi has always been this larger-t...
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It Takes Two to Tether('Us' Movie Review ft. David Dennis, Jr.) from 2019-04-04T13:26:51
We discuss the underexplored themes, jarring scenes and true-to-life horrors of this tinfoil hat thriller. (Of course there are spoilers.) Plus: Is 'Us' the 'Late Registration' of Jordan Peele's ca...
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The Gang Meets Keri Hilson from 2019-03-28T13:00:19
MS. KERI, BABY! joins us to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of her debut 'In a Perfect World.' She talks about balancing music with her Emory University studies, catching Timbaland's attention wh...
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Lil Wayne and the Good Ship Lollipop from 2019-03-21T13:00:19
"Lollipop" wasn't the Lil Wayne that anyone knew when he recorded it on March 13, 2008. But it would be the Lil Wayne that took over the world. Yoh, Jah and Christina revisit how Weezy bet on himse...
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Killer Mike, Atlanta 'Monster' from 2019-03-15T01:46:03
By 2003, Killer Mike had won Grammy without having an album out. This week we revisit how this "new school Ice Cube" answered to such high expectations with his debut 'Monster,' with all its Bizarr...
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Juvenile's Azz Starter Pistol Turns 20 from 2019-03-07T14:00:18
In a world when even Ellen DeGeneres tries to twerk, we revisit the Billboard hit that turned mainstream America into azz folks, by Juvenile, Mannie Fresh and a prepubescent Lil Wayne.
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Lil Jon, Dave Chappelle, & The Chronicles Of Crunk from 2019-02-28T17:29:32
The Sum'n To Say podcast consists of Christina, Jah, and Yoh. This week they celebrate the 15 year anniversary of the first time Dave Chappelle did a Lil Jon sketch on Chappelle's Show.
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BONUS: Casting Trapula After Seeing 'Horror Noire' from 2019-02-21T16:00:15
Mere days after we get spooked by the trailers for Jordan Peele's 'Us' and Octavia Spencer's 'Ma,' we find and review a new documentary about black horror from the ages of 'Birth of a Nation' to MA...
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Revisiting Geto Boys' First Stab at Horrorcore from 2019-02-21T15:00:15
In 1988, the Geto Boys emerged out a nightclub called the Rhinestone Wrangler to drop its debut album 'Making Trouble.' We revisit that awkward first stab at what the group would call "horrorcore r...
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Speakerboxxx/The White Grammy from 2019-02-14T15:00:25
WE'RE BACK. Today we revisit OutKast's 'Speakerboxxx/The Love Below,' the sprawling tour de force where Big Boi relegates Jay Z to hook duty and Andre 3000 completes his transformation to elite gra...
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2018 Season Finale from 2018-11-28T15:15:44
This week on the Sum'n To Say podcast, Jah, Christina and Yoh come together for the end-of-year 2018 wrap-up episode. After Jah and Yoh hash out their opposing opinions on Anderson.Paak’s major lab...
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The Gift and the Curse (with Steven "Stevo" Dingle) from 2018-11-21T15:00:04
The Atlanta talent manager and brand strategist (OG Parker, Kollision) looks back on life and times before and after Quality Control: how he was late to boarding the Jay Z train, helped launch a vi...
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You Want It To Be One Way...(w/ DJ Wally Sparks) from 2018-11-14T17:08:56
On this episode of the Sum'n To Say podcast we are joined by the incomparable DJ Wally Sparks to talk about his roots here in Atlanta and his epic R&B party The Groove. Wally also opines about the ...
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The Kids Are Alright from 2018-11-07T15:39:40
This week on the Sum'n To Say podcast, Jah, Christina and Yoh talk about the possibility of Drake becoming a "house show" TV host, the potential future for up-and-coming Atlanta artists like Keenon...
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Dreamcast and Nightmares (with Dr. Regina Bradley) from 2018-10-31T13:03:16
Literal hip-hop scholar Dr. Regina Bradley shares her theses on what the youth are missing out on today: skits, sexually explicit lyrics from male artists, and the joy of spades games IRL.
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Literally Everything is a Battle Rap (with David Dennis) from 2018-10-24T14:00:23
Writer David Dennis expounds on his theories on how God created Dana Carvey in his own image, the Game of Thrones episode that is the Drake and Pusha beef, and how battle rap is the biggest rap inf...
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Beware The Ides Of March from 2018-10-19T16:13:43
On this episode of the Sum'n To Say podcast Christina, Yoh and Jah discuss Drake's interview with LeBron James on 'The Shop' in addition to our reactions to the recent release of albums from Atlant...
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Where's the fuckin blow?? (The A3C Extravaganza Episode With Dom Maldonado) from 2018-10-10T15:14:58
Passionate music nerd, creator of the Leaders of the New Cool concert series, and Warner Bros. Records A&R Dom Maldonado joins us to talk her first night of the annual A3C Music Conference and Hip-...
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Can You Feel the Thug Tonight from 2018-10-03T14:00:19
Ahead of A3C, his first live show since Tha Carter V's arrival, we revisit how Lil Wayne's influence has continued to grow since he actually collaborated with Jason Mraz. We trace said influence th...
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Underground To Stone Mountain: Donald Glover's Enigmatic Atlanta Arc from 2018-09-26T16:25:25
Christina, Jah and Yoh take their DeLorean back to when Childish Gambino was simply a creative kid exploring his musical voice. We then journey forward to the present where he has become a cultura...
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Vision 6oard for the 5tarter Mansion from 2018-09-19T18:28:38
The new album by 6lack, East Atlanta Love Letter, enters the Sum'n to Say discussion colosseum. We dig into the heart of his sophomore offering, praise the inventive drive-in movie listening party,...
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The R-Word: The Audacity of Jeezy's 'HOPE' from 2018-09-12T14:00:16
We revisit the pre-GoFundMe era where all the Tony Robbins of white needed is a Bentley, a kidney for his auntie and a black president.
Production and "Vacation" auto-reply by Michael Saba...
Escaping the Trap: T.I.'s Preaching to Pushers and Proletariats from 2018-09-05T14:00:26
"When Trap Muzik came out, it was just an album title," says Yoh. We look back at how T.I. branded this Atlanta cultural export from when Greg Street would bump "Rubber Band Man" back to back.
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Creature from the Blacked Lagoon (with Myke C-Town) from 2018-08-29T14:00:16
Dead End Hip Hop's Myke C-Town stops by to weigh in Nicki Minaj's social media foolishness and the overall perils of being a #content creator in Hellworld 2018. Plus, a brief TED talk on "blacked" ...
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Un Solo Migo from 2018-08-24T00:00:08
On today's lost episode of 'Atlanta,' Yoh and Jah meet for the first time at a mansion party where Quavo is singing hooks a cappella.
Production and Beatles vibes by Michael Saba: www.yout...
On BlackKlansman, AKA Racist Catfish from 2018-08-22T14:00:28
We discuss the Trump subliminals, bigoted pillow talk and racists using their indoor voices in BlackKlansman. This review comes a week after we saw it in theaters and 30 seconds after we read Boots...
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Primetime, Hammer Time, Halftime: Music And Sports In Atlanta from 2018-08-15T14:10:28
Pay us now, Super Bowl producers. Since next year's game is in Atlanta, us residents went ahead and curated the entire 2019 ceremony, from the walk-on song to halftime acts and community outreach. ...
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Dawn of Justice: Our Origin Stories from 2018-08-08T14:00:24
We look back at when Lenox Mall mixtape salesmen were the original 2 Dope Boyz, Christina's mom heard Eminem taunt Tipper Gore and Yoh's aunt had him review So Far Gone for her website. These are t...
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Future Potter and the Codeine Stone from 2018-08-01T14:00:24
Did Jay Z wear a helmet when he lost 92 bricks? Is Future the world's most renewable energy source? And how does he rank among other members of the Dungeon Family? Just asking questions.
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Drake: Scorpion, Shame And Single Dad Subterfuge from 2018-07-25T15:16:55
Let the record show: We sat to talk Drake's 'Scorpion' two DAYS before 'Rolling Stone' reported Kanye's possible involvement in his beef with Pusha T. So put some respek on Prophet Yoh's name, as y...
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Trap To The Future from 2018-07-25T15:16:42
Dave Matthews rapping Migos lyrics on TV. Sounds like one of the seven signs of the apocalypse, right? But Jimmy Fallon's basic ass forced us Atlanta residents and rap critics to reckon with how tr...
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BONUS: We Just Saw 'Sorry to Bother You' and WTF from 2018-07-18T16:03:58
SPOILER ALERTS ABOUND. We couldn't help ourselves. We discuss the themes of Boots Riley's standout debut film and the scenes that had us reeling in our seats. Run to a theater near you: https://tic...
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Introducing Sum'n to Say: Pusha's Paradox from 2018-07-18T16:03:47
Introducing Sum'n to Say, a new Atlanta-based hip-hop culture podcast starring Jason "Jah" Lee (@HipHopObama), Christina Lee (@MinaAnnLee) and Yoh Phillips (@Yoh31). We ask the most important quest...
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