Podcasts by Hard Fork

A 5 O’Clock Shuttle to Mars? from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.992163

Diana Trujillo, a NASA flight director, discusses the future of space travel and the search for signs of life on the red planet.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more informati...

‘It’s His Own Damn Fault,’ Frank Luntz Says of Trump and Facebook from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.962533

Veteran Republican pollster Frank Luntz has never felt so gloomy.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at Listen

Inside the Decision on Trump’s Facebook Fate from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.952792

Alan Rusbridger led The Guardian through the Snowden revelations and WikiLeaks. Now, he's on the Facebook Oversight Board. He explains how the decision went down. 

You can find transcripts...

Women’s Basketball Is on the Rise. Is Anyone Paying Attention? from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.888312

LeBron James and Steph Curry are household names and brand magnates, but Diana Taurasi and A’ja Wilson haven’t quite reached that level. That’s despite being, respectively, the W.N.B.A.’s career...

Silicon Valley’s Thin Skins and Giant Egos from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.883351

From allegations that Bill Gates had been coming on to Microsoft employees to th...

What’s Keeping Biden’s Chief of Staff Up at Night? from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.859642

Ron Klain tells Kara Swisher it’s “everything” — except, apparently, the midterms. As White House chief of staff, Klain helps determine how the president spends scarce resources like time and po...

Chelsea Handler Has a Message for Straight Men from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.854824

Chelsea Handler says men are “on probation” — at least the ones who don’t seem to grasp how the country’s social justice movement is reshaping how we talk about, well, everything. The female com...

Is Ken Burns Taking Up Too Much Space? He Doesn’t Think So. from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.695497

From “deepfaking” Anthony Bourdain’s voice to reconstructing a re-edu...

$54 Billion Later, Why Is Flying Still a Headache? from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.688466

As the pandemic locked down cities and would-be travelers stayed home, the airline industry begged the government for  bailouts — and got them, to the tune of $54 billion. The funds were suppose...

Michael Pollan's'Trip Report' from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.685306

Michael Pollan has brewed tea from opium poppies, quit caffeine cold turkey and tried mescaline, a psychedelic found in some kinds of cactus. While the author’s past works have taken on the West...

Why Ashton Kutcher and Julie Cordua Are Defending Apple from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.667219

Apple has long been a pioneer on privacy, and has made that a central part of its marketing. So it was surprising to see privacy groups complain last month when it Listen

When Will Hollywood Stop Stereotyping Muslims? from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.664333

Since 9/11, and even before, Hollywood’s portrayal of Muslims has emboldened inaccurate stereotypes of dangerous villains or jihadist terrorists. In addition to misrepresenting Muslims, the indu...

What if Monica Lewinsky Had Twitter in 1998? from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.642930

Truth and context may seem elusive today, but for Monica Lewinsky they both “went out the door in 1998.” As the investigation into Bill Clinton unfolded, Lewinsky came under scrutiny as the most...

Is Texas Ready for Matthew McConaughey? from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.639956

When the actor Matthew McConaughey dropped his rom-com act to pursue hard-hitting dramas, Hollywood called it a “ Listen

Sex Bots and Mortality and A.I., Oh My! from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.591336

As Tesla develops its humanoid robot and Facebook — sorry, now Meta — rebrands to signal its focus on the metaverse and an even more virtual world, some might continue to wonder whether an Armag...

Is Casey Newton a ‘Facebook Apologist'? from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.588844

The Facebook Papers and whistle-blower testimony have given us yet more insight into the company’s impact on polarization and mental health, but if you could wave a magic wand and “pull the plug...

Why Humans Aren’t the Worst (Despite, Well, Everything Happening in the World) from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.562832

In 2019, when Rutger Bregman published his book “Humankind: A Hopeful History” and made a case for the decency of human nature, the world had yet to experience a deadly pandemic. But what does t...

Best Of: Exercise, and Accept Your ‘Inevitable Demise’ from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.560463

The fitness industry has exploded into a nearly $100 billion sector, and Alison Bechdel is among the exercise-obsessed. Bechdel, the cartoonist whose comic strip inspired the Bechdel Test for fe...

Twitter’s Former C.E.O. Has a ‘Too Bad, So Sad’ Approach to Content Moderation from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.548853

Remember social media before Donald Trump’s presidency? Dick Costolo does. He was Twitter’s chief executive from 2010 to 2015. And despite being in the hot seat for certain content moderation de...

One Year After the Jan. 6 Attack, Parler’s C.E.O Grapples with Big Tech and Trump from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.545991

After an angry mob attacked the Capitol last year and users on the right-leaning social network Parler organized, shared footage and called to “burn D.C. to the ground,” Kara Swisher grilled the...

A Fox News ‘Defector’ on How the Network ‘Played Footsie’ With Trump from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.491439

The former Fox commentator Jonah Goldberg — who has been called a “Fox defector” — says that Tucker Carlson’s latest documentary series was “the anvil that broke the camel’s back.” Titled “Patri...

How Instagram, FedEx and Wordle Hook You from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.485149

Brands like Gucci, Nike and Ralph Lauren are already flooding virtual worlds like Roblox and Fortnite with digital goods and advertising. But the designer and podcaster Debbie Millman thinks the...

Jon Stewart on Why the Right Would ‘Rather Do a Deal With Putin Than Pelosi’ from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.466018

As he wages a war against Ukraine, Vladimir Putin is finding strange allies on U.S. soil — from former President Donald Trump to the Fox News host Tucker Carlson. Jon Stewart wasn’t surprised. T...

Will Putin's Information Iron Curtain Backfire? from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.463312

On Friday, the Kremlin blocked access to Facebook inside Russia and passed a law making it illegal to spread what the government determines to be “false information” about the country’s armed fo...

‘Trump Is Gone, and We Still Have the Problems’: Michael Lewis Makes Sense of Our Bungled Covid Response from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.440947

Dr. Anthony Fauci has been the face of America’s Covid response and has been praised and vilified for his expertise. But who are all the other people who have worked behind the scenes at agencie...

How Elon Musk’s ‘Soft Power’ Might Shape Twitter’s Future from 2022-04-21T10:28:45.438145

Elon Musk promoted himself from avid Twitter user to major stakeholder on Monday. Musk, the head of Tesla and SpaceX, who has over 80 million followers on the platform, now also owns a 9.2 perce...

Tony Kushner on the Republican ‘Fantasy’ of a Nation Controlled by ‘Straight White Men’ from 2022-04-18T09:00

From Gov. Ron DeSantis signing Florida’s so-called Don’t Say Gay bill to Gov. Greg Abbott issuing a Texas directive that would classify medical care for transgender adolescents as “child abuse,”...

How Michelle Yeoh Took Jackie Chan’s Role from 2022-04-14T09:00

From her high-flying kicks in the film “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon” to her unconventional take on a “Bond girl” in “Tomorrow Never Dies,” Michelle Yeoh has had a multidecade career defying s...

Paul Krugman on Why the Economy Is Doing Better Than We Think from 2022-04-11T09:00

From rising gas prices and inflation to the Russia-Ukraine war, the U.S. economy has experienced all sorts of turbulence recently. But it hasn’t all been a bad news story: The U.S. unemployment ...

What Putin’s Propaganda Looks Like from Russia and Ukraine from 2022-03-31T09:00

The Russia-Ukraine War has been a dangerous time for journalists: Russian troops have kidnapped Ukrainian journalists working in contested territories, and the Kremlin has doubled down on censor...

Why Facebook's'Hubris and Arrogance'Astound This Attorney General from 2022-03-28T09:00

Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey has sued the Trump administration, Uber, Juul, Exxon Mobil, the Sacklers, and more — and has made a national name for herself in the process. Now she’...

The Corporations Passing — and Failing — the Ukraine Morality Test from 2022-03-24T09:00

McDonald’s, BP, Netflix and hundreds of other companies have enlisted in the West’s pushback against Vladimir Putin. Since the start of Russia’s invasion, several hundred U.S. companies have ann...

How Apple, Not Government, Became Tech’s Biggest Regulator from 2022-03-21T09:00

Big Tech has been amassing power and wealth for decades. So why is it taking the U.S. government so long to catch up? Congress, whose members can barely agree on lunch, is now contemplating a nu...

How Kathy Griffin Survived Cancer and Cancellation from 2022-03-17T09:00

Whether it’s Andrew Cuomo or Dave Chappelle, everyone these days, it seems, is blaming “cancel culture” for career problems. But five years ago, Kathy Griffin was a canary in the coal mine,  bei...

Why this Hollywood Actor Stays Off Social Media (Mostly) from 2022-03-14T09:00

As Facebook morphs into Meta and makes a push for immersive 3-D connection (without solving all of its existing problems), Kara Swisher takes a look back at the company’s early days — and the fi...

How Far Would Biden Go in a Cyber War Against Putin? from 2022-03-10T10:00

Ever since Russian forces invaded Ukraine late last month, President Biden has been toeing a fine line between providing support to the Ukrainians and averting kinetic, nuclear and cyber conflic...

Michael Pollan's'Trip Report' from 2022-03-07T03:34:01.256266

Michael Pollan has brewed tea from opium poppies, quit caffeine cold turkey and tried mescaline, a psychedelic found in some kinds of cactus. While the author’s past works have taken on the West...

Maggie Gyllenhaal Wants to Tell the Transgressive Stories of Motherhood from 2022-02-28T10:00

Rewarding as it is, motherhood can be an uphill battle. In the pandemic, we heard this in the stories of mothers struggling to juggle child care and schooling with work and other responsibilitie...

Anita Hill Takes On Those ‘Trying to Put Black Women in a Box’ from 2022-02-24T10:00

President Biden has interviewed at least three candidates for the Supreme Court seat vacated by Justice Stephen Breyer and has committed to nominating a Black woman to fill it. As the country aw...

Can Pete Buttigieg Deliver Joe Manchin? from 2022-02-21T04:13:50.596619

Biden's $2 trillion infrastructure plan may depend on it.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitt...

Tech’s Love Affair With Miami from 2022-02-17T10:00

Keith Rabois minted his wealth with Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and other members of the so-called “PayPal Mafia.” Now, though, he’s moved to Miami and become one of the city’s biggest hype men. He b...

How the Sacklers Got Away With It from 2022-02-14T10:00

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died of opioid overdoses in the past 20 years — and the crisis has only worsened during the pandemic. In September, the Sackler family, which was behind t...

The Sandy Hook Father Who Refused to Let Alex Jones Win from 2022-02-10T10:00

From the big lie to Bill Gates’s supposed Covid vaccine microchips, the internet loves a conspiracy theory. In this conversation, Kara Swisher revisits one that is almost a decade old: that Sand...

Why This Democratic Governor Seems to Be Over Covid from 2022-01-31T10:00

As Omicron surged across the country, Democratic and Republican governors alike doubled down on indoor mask mandates and declared states of emergency. But when asked whether he would make masks ...

Bob Iger’s Advice to Hollywood on His Way Out from 2022-01-27T10:00

Bob Iger’s recent retirement from Disney marks a sea change for the company. Starting at ABC nearly 50 years ago, Iger ascended from working at a local news network to serving as the chief execu...

Omicron Is (Still) Confusing. Two Experts Help Untangle the Covid Chaos. from 2022-01-24T10:00

With canceled plans, restaurants shuttering and talk of school shutdowns, the experience of the Covid pandemic can sometimes feel like two steps forward, one step back. And it’s not helped by ch...

Elizabeth Warren Claps Back at Elon Musk from 2022-01-20T10:00

Few people draw more ire in Silicon Valley than the Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts. She’s long fought against the power of big banks and corporate behemoths, so it’s natural that she’...

Exclusive: Lina Khan Is (Still) Bursting Big Tech's Bubble from 2022-01-19T18:25

Yesterday, the Federal Trade Commission and the Department of Justice announced they would work to rewrite merger rules in an approach that would clamp down on big tech deals that have allowed c...

Best Of: America’s Caste System Is 400 Years Old. That Doesn’t Change Overnight. from 2022-01-17T10:00

The Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Isabel Wilkerson has pointed to 2022 as a milestone for American history, marking the year the country will have existed as an independent nation for as long a...

Why This Liberal Mayor Doesn’t Want a Lecture From Progressives from 2022-01-13T10:00

San Francisco’s politicians are struggling to find a Goldilocks balance when it comes to public safety, and Democrats across the nation should pay attention. After declaring a state of emergency...

What if Work Were a Video Game? from 2022-01-10T10:00

When it comes to the metaverse, Phil Spencer could give Mark Zuckerberg a run for his money. The head of Xbox and executive vice president of gaming at Microsoft, Spencer says popular games like...

Why Facebook Whistle-Blower Frances Haugen Thinks She’ll Outlast Mark Zuckerberg from 2021-12-20T10:00

The Facebook whistle-blower Frances Haugen leaked a treasure trove of internal documents to the press and testified before Congress about the extent to which the tech giant fuels political polar...

Buy an Earth Suit, Shoot Sulfur into the Atmosphere (And Other Contingency Plans for a Warming Earth) from 2021-12-13T10:00

We are quickly approaching the dystopian future that Neal Stephenson outlined in his 1992 best seller “Snow Crash.” That book anticipated and coined the term “metaverse,” a concept that almost 3...

Emily Ratajkowski Isn't Quite Ready to Quit Profiting Off the Male Gaze from 2021-11-29T10:00

Emily Ratajkowski is winning in the Instagram era: She has 28.6 million followers and has spent more than half her life making a living as a model. But even at her level of success, she still wo...

Sway's Newest Listener (and an Update on This Week) from 2021-11-22T10:00

You might’ve heard Kara mention she and her partner are expecting a new baby. He’s arrived — four weeks early and right on time — so the team is taking a break this Thanksgiving week. Come back nex...

Can The Washington Post De-Snark the News? from 2021-11-18T10:00

In May, Sally Buzbee became the first woman to be hired for one of the most coveted jobs in journalism: executive editor of The Washington Post. Since then, Buzbee has overseen ambitious digital...

What the Metaverse Sounds Like to Hans Zimmer from 2021-11-15T10:00

Hans Zimmer has spent his career scoring cinematic worlds, from the ancient Rome of “Gladiator” to the futuristic landscape of “Dune.” So what does the metaverse sound like to him? “It sounds li...

What the Metaverse Sounds Like to Hans Zimmer from 2021-11-15T10:00

Hans Zimmer has spent his career scoring cinematic worlds, from the ancient Rome of “Gladiator” to the futuristic landscape of “Dune.” So what does the metaverse sound like to him? “It sounds li...

The Metaverse: Expectations vs. Reality from 2021-11-11T10:00

Mark Zuckerberg might be trying to stake his claim on the metaverse, but he’s far from the first person to envision a more virtual world. Take it from Jaron Lanier.

He’s often called the “...

Why Katie Couric Owned Up to Her Regrets from 2021-10-28T09:00

Katie Couric has drawn fire for her new memoir, which chronicles over two decades of a TV news career that had her co-hosting with Matt Lauer (who became “cocky and reckless”), working under Les...

Why Republican Ken Buck Believes in Antitrust and Doesn’t Believe in the ‘Big Lie’ from 2021-10-25T09:00

Representative Ken Buck has joined forces with the Democratic congressman David Cicilline and others to push through a package of antitrust legislation that could prove damning to companies like...

Can a Nobel Peace Prize Protect Maria Ressa From Rodrigo Duterte? from 2021-10-21T09:00

Maria Ressa and Dmitri Muratov recently took home the Nobel Peace Prize, marking the first time working journalists have won the award since 1935. Ressa believes the Norwegian Nobel Committee’s ...

Walt Mossberg's Take on Mark Zuckerberg and More from 2021-10-18T09:00

After leaked internal documents in The Wall Street Journal, whistle-blower testimony on Capitol Hill, a global server outage and drops in share price, Facebook has recently taken (another) spect...

Adam Schiff on Facebook, Fox News and the Trump Cult from 2021-10-14T09:00

It’s been nine months since the Capitol attack, and we still don’t have true accountability. Representative Adam Schiff and the rest of the Jan. 6 House select committee are issuing subpoenas to...

Samantha Bee Doesn't Miss Donald Trump from 2021-10-11T09:00

The 45th president may have been ripe material for (dark) comedy, but Samantha Bee sure does not miss him. After covering Donald Trump for six seasons on her late night show “Full Frontal with S...

Can Andrew Yang End America’s 2-Party System? from 2021-09-30T09:00

Andrew Yang failed in his campaigns for president of the United States and mayor of New York City, but that has not stopped him from trying to disrupt the political status quo with a new party, ...

Can Beto O’Rourke Pull a Stacey Abrams? from 2021-09-27T09:00

Beto O’Rourke came close to unseating Senator Ted Cruz in 2018 and fell far from winning the presidency in 2020. Now the former El Paso congressman has turned his attention back home. He’s been ...

How They Failed: C.A. Republicans, Media Critics and Facebook Leadership from 2021-09-23T09:00

In a special Opinion Audio bonanza, Kara Swisher, Jane Coaston (The Argument) and Ezra Klein (Listen

What Is 23andMe Doing With Your DNA? from 2021-09-20T09:00

Anne Wojcicki is sitting on a treasure trove of genetic data. The co-founder and chief executive of 23andMe has led the genetic testing company through 14 years in which it has collected data fr...

Jeffrey Katzenberg Talks About His Billion-Dollar Flop from 2021-09-16T09:00

The public failure of his start-up Quibi hasn’t stopped Jeffrey Katzenberg from doubling down on tech. A Hollywood power broker, he headed up Disney in the 1980s and ’90s and co-founded a rival ...

Is Limitless Choice Killing Us Slowly? from 2021-09-13T09:00

Imagine a world in which Google and Amazon join together to form an all-knowing corporate juggernaut that could program our every movement. Author Dave Eggers has contemplated such a future in h...

Is Kara Behind on Barbie? from 2021-08-30T09:00

Mattel went through three chief executives in four years before Ynon Kreiz took the job in 2018. He stood the test of time in part because of a big bet: taking Mattel's toys to Hollywood. The to...

Why Vaccine Mandates for Teachers Have Been a Harder Sell Than Mask Mandates for Kids from 2021-08-26T09:00

As the pandemic has pushed the country into a debate about when and how to reopen schools, Randi Weingarten has faced the ire of parents, teachers, school boards and — of course — Fox News. The ...

Yes, the Owner of a Movie Theater Chain Feels Bad for Me from 2021-08-23T09:00

When Kara Swisher wrote a column declaring her love for Vin Diesel and predicting ...

How Jason Miller Is Trying to Get Trump Back on the Internet from 2021-08-19T09:00

Social media has felt quieter without the constant ALL CAPS fury of Donald Trump, but Jason Miller is trying to change that.

Miller, who was the former president’s longtime aide and spokes...

Joseph Gordon-Levitt: ‘Silicon Valley Now Owns Hollywood.’ from 2021-08-16T09:00

Joseph Gordon-Levitt is deep in Silicon Valley these days. No, he’s not pitching a start-up (though he does have one of those): He is playing Uber’s former chief executive Travis Kalanick in an ...

Should We Worry As Billionaires Buy Up Newspapers? from 2021-08-12T09:00

Patrick Soon-Shiong, the owner of the Los Angeles Times, says we should — and he’s one of those billionaires. In 2018, Soon-Shiong — who minted his fortune by inventing a cancer drug in the 1990...

Would You Give Up Google for This? from 2021-07-29T09:00

Call it a redemption narrative: After working to grow Google’s lucrative advertising business for 15 years, Sridhar Ramaswamy left the Silicon Valley Goliath to co-found Neeva, a subscription-ba...

‘It’s a Tough Time to Be Mayor’: Lori Lightfoot Responds to Her Critics from 2021-07-26T09:00

Mayors across the country are facing heat. Bill DeBlasio was New York’s default punching bag (perhaps deservedly) throughout the pandemic. Keisha Lance Bottoms decided to forgo seeking a second ...

Robot Therapists? Not So Fast, Says Talkspace C.E.O. from 2021-07-22T09:00

Talk therapy has seen a boom during the pandemic. And with mental health chat bots like Woebot on the market and text therapy platforms like Talkspace going public, the possibility of humans out...

Kara Goes to the Olympics from 2021-07-19T09:00

People love the Olympics. But this year’s Games, which open on Friday, are plagued with controversial suspensions and public pushback, not to mention the pandemic. How did we get here?

Tha...

The Ezra Klein Show: Sam Altman on the A.I. Revolution, Trillionaires and the Future of Political Power from 2021-07-15T09:00

Kara's on vacation this week, so we're bringing you an episode of another great Times Opinion podcast, 'The Ezra Klein Show.'

 “The technological progress we make in the next 100 years wil...

The Argument: Not Everyone Is Worried About America's Falling Birthrates from 2021-07-12T09:00

Kara's on vacation this week, so we're bringing you an episode of another great Times Opinion podcast, The Argument.

U.S. birthrates have fallen by 4 percent, hitting a record low. And it’...

A Guy Fieri Pep Talk from 2021-06-28T09:00

Guy Fieri recently inked an $80 million deal with the Food Network, making him the highest-paid chef on cable TV. He did this on the heels of a brutal year for the restaurant industry, which, ac...

Exercise, and Accept Your ‘Inevitable Demise’ from 2021-06-24T09:00

The fitness industry has exploded into a nearly $100 billion sector, and Alison Bechdel is among the exercise-obsessed. Bechdel, the cartoonist whose comic strip inspired the Bechdel Test for fe...

Dr. Fauci Claps Back from 2021-06-21T09:00

Anthony Fauci doesn’t have a Twitter account. But he does have a lot to say about the recent scrutiny following the release of his emails from 2020 — an especially busy time in his tenure as Ame...

Is This the Big Tech Breakup We’ve Been Waiting For? from 2021-06-17T09:00

Representative David Cicilline’s bipartisan package takes aim at tech companies and would be the biggest antitrust reform in decades. But is it too little, too fragmented and way too late? The t...

Inside the I.R.S. Files of the Ultra-Wealthy from 2021-06-14T09:00

It’s an open secret that the uber-rich don’t pay their fair share in taxes. But Jesse Eisinger and his team at ProPublica have unearthed the numbers to back that up. In “Listen

Meet Big Tech’s Tormenter-in-Chief from 2021-06-10T09:00

Margrethe Vestager and Kara Swisher have something in common: They both have made it their job to keep watch on Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, Mark Zuckerberg and the other titans of tech. Vestager does ...

Is Jake Tapper for Sale? from 2021-05-27T09:00

AT&T owns CNN — for now. But one day Netflix and Apple could be in a bidding war for the CNN anchor Jake Tapper. That’s Kara's take, anyway. It could be the next step in the streaming wars, and ...

How Online Sleuths Pantsed Putin from 2021-05-24T09:00

It turns out you can use a prank call to expose suspected poisoners, mole patterns to identify a violent demonstrator at a white nationalist rally and online videos to reveal a weapons-smuggling...

Can Snapchat Win the War Against TikTok? from 2021-05-20T17:55

Snap Inc. lost nearly $40 million when it introduced its first pair of camera-laden Spectacles in 2016. But the company’s C.E.O., Evan Spiegel, is trying again. He announced on Thursday that Sna...

We're Running a Little Late! from 2021-05-20T09:00

Kara's conversation with Snap C.E.O. Evan Spiegel will be coming out at 2 p.m., Eastern today!

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com...

Algorithms Make Fewer Mistakes Than Humans. Why Don't We Trust Them? from 2021-05-17T09:00

The Nobel Prize-winning behavioral economist Daniel Kahneman on why human “noise” makes systems less fair.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at...

Inside the Republican Anti-Transgender Machine from 2021-05-13T09:00

A.C.L.U. attorney Chase Strangio on the coordinated strategy behind the more than 100 anti-transgender bills introduced this year.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more...

Who Wins in a Meme Stock World? from 2021-05-10T09:00

Jannick Malling, Public’s co-C.E.O., weighs the risks and rewards of the retail trading boom.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at Listen

Why is So Much Money Moving to Miami? from 2021-04-29T09:00

The city might be sinking, but Mayor Francis Suarez is still luring tech bros there.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at Listen

Why Does the C.I.A. Need Puppets? from 2021-04-26T09:00

And where does it get them? The agency’s top technologist Dawn Meyerriecks talks spy gear and why Hollywood and Silicon Valley play a critical role in national security.

You can find trans...

The Evolution of Desus&Mero from 2021-04-22T09:00

From Twitter to cable TV, the duo is changing the culture of comedy.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at Listen

She's Taking Jeff Bezos to Task from 2021-04-19T09:00

Joy Buolamwini is on a crusade against bias in facial recognition technology, and the powerful companies that profit from it.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information ...

CNN Is in a Post-Trump Slump. What Does That Mean for Don Lemon? from 2021-04-15T09:00

The prime-time host on the future of cable news, the urgency of conversations about race and whether CNN is a boys’ club.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for ...

A Public Health Lesson for Ron DeSantis, From Harvard from 2021-04-12T09:00

Michelle A. Williams, an epidemiologist and Harvard dean, urges politicians to focus on public health if they want a strong economy.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more infor...

Amy Klobuchar vs. Silicon Valley from 2021-03-29T09:00

The senator presents her case for regulating big tech and why it’s time to "make antitrust cool again."

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at Listen

The Spiritual Teacher Biden’s Campaign Called for Help from 2021-03-25T09:00

Glennon Doyle says her role has been to “go get the white women.”

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at Listen

What the Heck are NFTs? Let's Ask Beeple. from 2021-03-22T09:00

The artist, whose real name is Mike Winklemann, just sold an encrypted digital collage for $69 million. So are non-fungible tokens the next new asset class, or is it all hype?

You can find...

Airbnb Has a Hate Group Problem Too from 2021-03-18T09:00

But it’s not the same as Facebook’s. C.E.O. Brian Chesky discusses why he and Mark Zuckerberg have different consequences to consider.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more inf...

Stop Whining About Big Government from 2021-03-15T09:00

Economist Mariana Mazzucato says the narrative that the private sector drives innovation is only half the story.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episo...

Spike Lee Predicts the Future from 2021-03-11T10:00

The director of “Da 5 Bloods” talks about why his old movies still resonate, whether an awards snub even matters and how it’s not his job to end racism.

You can find transcripts (posted mi...

Sacha Baron Cohen Has a Message for Mark Zuckerberg from 2021-02-25T10:00

The actor who, as Borat, drew our attention to racism, misogyny and autocratic propaganda calls out the social media companies who profit off these trends.

You can find transcripts (posted...

Sacha Baron Cohen Has a Message for Mark Zuckerberg from 2021-02-25T10:00

The actor who, as Borat, drew our attention to racism, misogyny and autocratic propaganda calls out the social media companies who profit off these trends.

You can find transcripts (posted...

Lessons on Resilience From Dogs and Dog Sledders from 2021-02-22T10:00

The adventurer Blair Braverman has led a team of sled dogs over a 900-mile race in Alaska, seen her skin dissolve in the desert and overcome Covid-19. What makes it all less terrifying? Acceptin...

No Parties. No Sports. How Oberlin College Is Surviving the Pandemic. from 2021-02-18T10:00

Colleges across the country are figuring out how Covid has changed the college experience, while parents are struggling to understand why schools haven’t changed their price tag.

You can f...

Innovation, Not Trees. How Bill Gates Plans to Save the Planet from 2021-02-15T10:00

He has billions to donate for crises from coronavirus to climate change, and more hope now that Trump is out of office.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for al...

Innovation, Not Trees. How Bill Gates Plans to Save the Planet from 2021-02-15T10:00

He has billions to donate for crises from coronavirus to climate change, and more hope now that Trump is out of office.

You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for al...

Fran Lebowitz Isn’t Buying What Jack Dorsey Is Selling from 2021-02-11T10:00

The 70-year old social commentator and humorist doesn’t have a smartphone. That doesn’t stop her from having a take on big tech (and everything else).

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What if the ‘Karate Kid’ Isn’t the Hero? from 2021-01-28T10:00

The “Karate Kid” was a hero of the 1980s. Now he’s back, with the actor Ralph Macchio reprising the role for the series “Cobra Kai.” The story is ostensibly a classic battle between a hero and a...

Bonus: Kara and Kevin Roose Debrief on Chris Best from 2021-01-26T18:00

Kara’s conversation on Monday with Chris Best, the chief executive of Substack, hit on echo chambers, e...

The Site Trump Could Run to Next from 2021-01-25T05:00

Facebook and Twitter have kicked Donald Trump off their platforms and Amazon Web Services removed Parler from its cloud. But there’s another popular platform that markets itself as the destinati...

A Black and Asian Female V.P. Doesn’t Mean We’ve Escaped Caste from 2021-01-21T05:00

At the inauguration on Wednesday, Kamala Harris became vice president — the nation’s first Black person, the first Asian person and the first woman to do so — and President Biden spoke of “a cry...

Bryan Cranston Won’t Play Donald Trump from 2021-01-19T05:00

Bryan Cranston has built his reputation playing powerful men, from President Lyndon B. Johnson to  Walter White in "Breaking Bad" to  Michael Desiato in "Your Honor." On this episode of "Sway," ...

Food Delivery Is Keeping Uber Alive. Will It Kill Restaurants? from 2021-01-14T05:00

Uber’s chief executive, Dara Khosrowshahi, is charging toward a world in which food is delivered through apps like Uber Eats and “a driver may be human or may be software.” On the way, he acknow...

Anna Wintour on the Kamala Harris Vogue Cover from 2021-01-12T08:00

The February cover of Vogue featuring Vice President-elect Kamala Harris kicked off a controversy involving the most powerful woman in fashion and the soon-to-be most powerful woman in the White...

Inside the Billion-Dollar War Against Right-Wing Conspiracists from 2021-01-11T05:00

Dominion Voting Systems has filed a $1.3 Billion defamation suit against former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell. Chief Executive John Poulos says it’s the “first step” in the voting machine company’s...

This Astrologer Has Some Things to Tell Kara Swisher from 2020-12-28T05:00

Astrology has been around for thousands of years, so why are “Mercury in retrograde” memes and horoscopes still so popular in 2020? “We all need, at some point or another, to have someone say: ‘...

Bonus: Kara and Nick Kristof Debrief on Ajay Banga from 2020-12-22T05:00

On yesterday’s episode of Sway, the chief executive of Mastercard spoke about why the c...

Your Card Payment Has Been Declined from 2020-12-21T05:00

Ajay Banga has spent a decade as chief executive of Mastercard. Last year, he oversaw $6.5 trillion in transactions. That means he knows what we’re spending right now (aggregated and anonymized,...

Can Kara be Vulnerable? from 2020-12-17T05:00

Brené Brown’s best-selling books and TED talks about embracing vulnerability and shame have made her a cultural phenomenon. Silicon Valley executives often invite her to speak to their companies...

Bonus: Kara and Maggie Haberman Debrief on Brad Raffensperger from 2020-12-15T05:00

Kara's interview with Georgia’s Secretary of State was a doozy. This episode refers back to yesterday’s episode, “Listen

Georgia's Secretary of State on Standing Up to Trump from 2020-12-14T05:00

Georgia begins early voting today in two runoffs that will decide the composition of the next U.S. Senate. If Democrats win both seats, the Senate will be split 50-50 (with Vice President-elect ...

Bonus: Kara Swisher and Ben Smith Debrief on Jason Kilar from 2020-12-11T12:25

This week, Kara Swisher interviewed WarnerMedia’s chief executive, Jason Kilar, fresh on the heels of the announcement that Warner Bros. will release its 2021 film slate in theaters and on its s...

Movie Theaters Are Dying. Did Jason Kilar Deal the Final Blow? from 2020-12-10T12:55

If you want to be the first to watch “Dune,” “Godzilla vs. Kong” or the new “Matrix” movie this year (yes, there’s a fourth one) — you won’t have to line up at a movie theater. That’s because Ja...

In Hollywood, Women Are Seen as ‘a Risk’ from 2020-11-30T05:00

Marielle Heller had her big acting break in “The Queens Gambit,” a chess drama that has already been viewed on Netflix by over 60 million households. But prior to her performance as Alma Wheatle...

Jane Goodall on Chimps, Presidents and Other Alpha Males from 2020-11-23T05:00

Jane Goodall is an expert on alpha males — for decades, she’s been studying them in chimpanzee communities. She’s also inspired leaders in business, politics and culture to change their approach...

Why 3rd Grade Matters from 2020-11-19T06:00

Harvard economist Raj Chetty believes that there’s a way to push past America’s political divide: data.

Mr. Chetty, head of the Harvard-based research group Opportunity Insights, has amass...

At-Home Covid Tests and Other Powers of a Tech Billionaire from 2020-11-16T05:00

Chamath Palihapitiya is one of Silicon Valley’s most successful tech investors. He’s also among the most candid. “I aspire to be a Koch brother before I aspire to be an under secretary,” he tell...

Math Lessons From Pennsylvania from 2020-11-12T05:00

In the postelection uncertainty, all eyes were on Pennsylvania. And John Fetterman, the state’s Twitter-famous lieutenant governor, held court. He rallied Democrats with one-liners and taunted P...

She’s Bursting Big Tech’s Bubble from 2020-10-29T06:30

It finally looks as if Big Tech may face some breakups. Lawmakers are interrogating tech C.E.O.s on Capitol Hill while the Justice Department pursues a landmark antitrust case against Google. Fo...

Hillary Clinton Says It’s Different This Time from 2020-10-26T04:00

“We are advantaged — unfortunately — by four years of a record from Trump,” Hillary Clinton says as she predicts big wins for Democrats in 2020. The former candidate has been a lightning rod for...

Should You Choose Your Baby’s Eye Color? from 2020-10-22T04:00

CRISPR-Cas9 is the kind of scientific breakthrough that could change human evolution. Scientists call it “genetic scissors” — a tool that snips DNA with powerful and scary precision. As Dr. Jenn...

The Election Isn’t Doomed … Yet from 2020-10-19T04:00

In part two of Sway’s two-part election integrity series, Kara Swisher speaks to Trevor Potter, a former chairman of the Federal Election Commission and an expert on the dark money and opaque la...

Can Big Tech Make Sure That 2020 Is Not 2016? from 2020-10-15T04:30

In part one of Sway’s two-part election integrity series, Kara Swisher speaks to Alex Stamos, former Facebook chief information security officer and current director of the Stanford Internet Obs...

Planned Parenthood’s Plan for Amy Coney Barrett from 2020-10-12T04:00

Roe v. Wade is under threat. As Republican senators scramble to fill Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s seat with a conservative justice who would tilt the court six to three, the nation’s largest ab...

Elon Musk: ‘A.I. Doesn’t Need to Hate Us to Destroy Us’ from 2020-09-28T06:45

Elon Musk has a vision of the future, and — as one of the world’s richest men with four corporations under his reign — the means to try to manifest it. In a conversation with Kara Swisher, he ou...

Gavin Newsom: ‘We Decided to Pull the Band-Aid Off’ from 2020-09-24T09:00

On this episode of “Sway,” Kara Swisher speaks to Gavin Newsom, a governor who is, by some measures, running a country. California is the world’s fifth-largest economy. And yesterday, the state ...

Nancy Pelosi: ‘If The Election Were Held Today, We Would Win It All’ from 2020-09-21T05:00

In the inaugural episode of Kara Swisher’s new podcast, “Sway,” she interviews House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. When it comes to presidential succession, Ms. Pelosi is second in line. And when it com...