On game design: Eric Zimmerman, author,"The Rules We Break"from Dec 5, 2022 - a podcast by Mark Hurst and WFMU

Eric Zimmerman, game designer and author, "The Rules We Break"

Tomaš Dvořák - "Game Boy Tune"

- "Mark's intro"

- "Interview with Eric Zimmerman" [0:05:51]

Pink Tiles - "Internet" [0:55:55]
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