That Mike Dean Episode - a podcast by BBC Radio 5 live

In a coup for the pod, a fourth chair is added to the circle for the first time and filled by none other than the king of referees, Mr Mike Dean. Collective minds and preconceptions are blown away as Mike reveals what the men in black wear to their Xmas fancy dress party, what really happens on Ref Camp and how many chickens he would have to see off per day in his old day job. Meanwhile Crouchy goes on an unexpected emotional journey that leaves him a changed man.

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