98: On Brand and In Person - a podcast by 5by5

from 2013-10-04T19:45

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In a rollicking, laugh-filled hour, host Jeffrey Zeldman chats with internet radio pioneer, design author, and brand maven Debbie Millman @debbiemillman about broadcasting, writing, teaching, publishing, learning to be happy in your own skin, and the importance of early failure to long-term success and happiness.

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