Elon Musk's Enduring Car Culture - a podcast by WNYC

As TIME named Elon Musk person of the year, other news outlets wrote about how Musk's pursuit of self-driving car technology has worried safety experts. Alex Pareene, author of The AP (Alex Pareene) Newsletter, and co-host of the New Republic magazine's podcast, "The Politics of Everything," talks about his latest newsletter, which posits that less-than-perfect technology actually benefits car manufacturers and car culture in the long run.

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