Podcasts by The Conversation Art Podcast
A podcast featuring both one-on-one and three-way roundtable conversations with contemporary artists, dealers, curators, and collectors--based in Los Angeles, but reaching nationally and internationally.
Further podcasts by Michael Shaw
Podcast on the topic Bildende Kunst
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Zombie Formalism, Debt aesthetics, and AI&Art: New Yorker writer/critic Chris Wiley from 2023-12-02T22:46:11
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Epis: 354- the Art Thief, the remarkable story of art history's most prolific stealer, with author Michael Finkel from 2023-10-14T22:50:38
Michael Finkel discusses the remarkable story of Stéphane Breitwieser, the sub...
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Epis. 351- veteran co-host Deb Klowden Mann joins to discuss Money on the Wall, an epic profile of dealer Larry Gagosian from 2023-09-02T22:16:24
This special episode features return-guest-but-more-co-host Deb Klowden Mann to disc...
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Epis: 349- Narsiso Martinez on his epic story from Oaxaca to California, from picking produce in the fields to becoming a full-time artist from 2023-08-05T21:12:14
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Epis: 347- Alexis Rockman on 'owning' natural history from 2023-07-01T20:38:06
Connecticut- and New York City-based artist Alexis Rockman talks about:
His semi-exodus from Manhattan, where he’s lived his whole life, to a fai...
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Epis: 345- House-hunting with a Billionaire from 2023-06-04T18:21:05
Hungarian billionaire Gabriela and artist and architect Andi Schmied talk about:
Art Adivisor Lisa Schiff- a Re-Release of Episode 99 from 2015 from 2023-05-26T18:58:47
Art Advisor Lisa Schiff has been in the news over the last two weeks, because of lawsuits being filed against her by clients who weren't given the artworks they paid for, and Schiff has subseque...
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Bonus Epis: 344- the Bay Area art scenes, healing out of ancestral trauma, and seeing Philip Guston through the lens of a Jew: artist Alex Nowik from 2023-05-20T17:26:38
In Bonus Episode 344, San Francisco and northern Virginia-based artist Alex Nowik talks about:
Epis: 343- Flora, Public Art and loving New York even if NY doesn’t love you back: Brooklyn-based artist Nancy Blum from 2023-05-06T17:49
Brooklyn-based artist Nancy Blum talks about...
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In-Between Episode including fresh OLD NEWS from 2023-04-22T20:23
In this in-between (342 and 343) episode, I talk about the new Bonus Episode with Stefanie Kogler-Heimburger (for subscribers only), and recent OLD NEWS including a photo contest winner who used...
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Epis. 341: Class Issues- artists and class with Berlin artist Norbert Witzgall from 2023-04-08T05:19:34
Berlin-based artist and co-curator of the exhibition ‘Listen
The Conversation MIDWAY- Bonus episode announcement, plus a rant on the art services industry from 2023-03-26T21:06:35
In this Conversation MIDWAY - between epis. 340 and 341 - I talk about the bonus episode for Patreons, ...
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Epis. 340: Veteran art handler Bryan Cooke on 50+ years in the art handling business, including several brushes with death from 2023-03-09T21:00:07
Episode 340- Veteran art handler and preparator Bryan Cooke talks about:
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Preview/Teaser for Epis. 339A- Art Can Kill: The Art World's Crooks, Clowns&Connossieurs from 2023-02-26T04:06:56
In this Teaser for Episode 339A, which is only available to Patreon supporters of the show, we talk about becoming a supporter of the show, r...
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Epis. 338: Former pro surfer and current arts writer Jamie Brisick on why success is its own form of failure, and Raymond Pettibon, Paul Chan and Francis Alys, among others from 2023-02-11T21:11:44
Arts writer and former professional surfer Jamie Brisick talks about: w hat it was like being on the p...
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Epis. 337: Art&Politics- how can they co-exist? The Conversation's 14th Virtual Cafe from 2023-01-28T20:18:32
n the 14th installment of the podcast’s Virtual Café, we take as our prompt a Dec. Listen
Epis. 336: on The Death of the Artist, a frank conversation with writer and cultural critic William Deresiewicz from 2023-01-07T22:49:38
Writer and cultural critic William Deresiewicz, author of The Death of the A...
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Epis. 335: Mashed potatoes hurled at Monet, Artists being replaced by AI Robots, a Bad Studio Visit cartoon, and new email etiquette for the Uffizi Gallery, with a very special guest-host from 2022-12-25T05:23:01
For this latest roundup of OLD NEWS stories, we’re joined by a very special guest, to talk about:
The MASS MoCA union; the new monument to the Central Park 5; the debate about bringing at...
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Epis. 334: The challenges in green-lighting public art that’s actually good- curator and arts administrator Zoë Taleporos from 2022-12-10T20:36:05
Oakland-based curator and arts administrator Zoë Taleporos talks about:
Her straddling independent curating and gover...
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Epis.#333- Tjebbe Beekman, Amsterdam-based artist on how a major life turning point became a turning point for his art from 2022-11-25T19:23:14
Amsterdam-based artist Tjebbe Beekman talks about:
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Epis. 332: U. of Michigan art historian/scholar Joan Kee on Korean contemporary art, emojis, and going through law school&corporate law on her way to becoming an art historian from 2022-11-12T20:49:32
Joan Kee, University of Michigan art historian and current Listen
ICA San Diego director Andrew Utt: on the curatorial process, and how to increase the art reputation of a city not known for its art world from 2022-10-30T22:25:49
ICA San Diego director Andrew Utt talks about:
Moving back to San Diego, where he grew up, after years away in the Bay Area and South America, and w...
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Epis.330: Cole Sternberg, from painting with the elements to his Free Republic of California project to moving to a farm during the pandemic from 2022-10-15T21:55:05
Cole Sternberg, artist and creator of the Free Republic of California, talks about: Listen
Epis.329: Ben Davis on the Ordinary World Record Egg, what to do when Apple co-opts your artwork, and where high art meets immersive art from 2022-10-01T19:40:14
In part 2 with ArtNet News critic Ben Davis, we talk about: environmentalism and our approach to the climate, as well his emphasis on finding a good middle ground between overly dire and overly ...
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Epis.328: Ben Davis, National Art Critic for Artnet News and author most recently of Art in the After-Culture from 2022-09-17T21:38:21
Ben Davis, Artnet News's National Art Critic and author most recently of Ar...
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Epis.327: Val Zavala on the Extinction Circle, Death Cafes and the New 10 Commandments for Future Generations from 2022-09-03T20:00:59
Val Zavala, former anchor/reporter for the long-running KCET (L.A. PBS station) series SoCal Connected and Life & Times talks about:
The ‘Extinction Circle’ group that s...
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Epis.326- NYC art appraiser David Shapiro: from valuing a work of art to shifting from his own art career from 2022-08-20T18:46:48
New York-based art appraiser David Shapiro talks about:
What he does as an appraiser, whether in-person inspec...
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Immersive art installations: who visits them, why, and where they're headed...with Kate Sharkey, painter and a 'host' at ARTECHOUSE from 2022-08-06T18:00:34
New Jersey-based painter and immersive art museum ‘host’ Kate Sharkey talks about:
Transitioning from being a preparator (at MoMA) to getting a ...
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Epis.#324- Maria Brito, her path from emerging singer to corporate lawyer to art advisor; and how she scored a Banksy for a client from 2022-07-23T18:10:11
Maria Brito, art advisor, entrepreneur and author of How Creativity Rules the World talks ab...
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Epis. 323, Dave Kinsey: post-graffiti, post-illustration, post-skate art, and the BLK/MRKT gallery scene in the early-to-mid-2000s from 2022-07-09T18:28:56
Vista, CA-based artist Dave Kinsey talks about:
The gallery BLK/MRKT, that grew out of a design studio he co-...
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Episode 322- Profound effects on the art market, ‘Rich-Kid’ art, and a painting of a polar bear from 2022-06-27T21:33:54
In this OLD NEWS-oriented episode of the show, I talk about:
Immersive art exhibits, which are booming, much to my chagrin; a follow-up on the art world’s ‘ponzi-like scheme' involving a ...
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Epis. 321: Working as an artist's assistant, learning to pay attention, and dedication to the process- James Griffith, part 2 from 2022-06-11T19:37:21
In the 2nd part of our conversation, James and I talk about: working as an assistant for various artists, including making large-scale paintings for other artists, and wanting to be credited for...
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Epis. 320: James Griffith, L.A.-based painter, on painting with tar, and re-building his home, studio, and outdoor amphitheater- part 1 of 2 from 2022-05-28T03:39:15
Altadena (in L.A. County)-based artist James Griffith talks about:
Discovering the town of Altadena, ...
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Epis. 319: Sarah Thibault, S.F.-based artist, on residency hopping, conversing with ghosts, and being the last artist in San Francisco (or so it seems) from 2022-05-14T20:39:53
San Francisco-based artist Sarah Thibault talks about:
How she’s the last artist in S.F...
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Epis. 318: Andrew Russeth- art writer formerly in New York, now living in Seoul, South Korea from 2022-04-30T22:02:10
Freelance art writer (often for the New York Times) and past guest royalty Andrew Russeth talks about:
Why he moved to Seoul, ...
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Epis. 316: Why MoMA goes to great lengths to recreate what's dying or only existing in the past- Fernando Dominguez Rubio, part 2 from 2022-04-02T19:53:42
In part 2 with Fernando Domínguez Rubio, a professor of communications at UCSD and author of Listen
Epis. 315: What goes on behind the scenes of a museum (specifically MoMA), and why it matters, with Fernando Dominguez Rubio, author of Still Life: Ecologies of the Modern Imagination at the Art Museum, part 1 from 2022-03-19T20:00:21
In the first of several parts with Fernando Domínguez Rubio, a professor of communications at UCSD and author of Listen
Epis. 314: Oligarch Shortage, SuperBlue Indictment, and the Cinema of Transgression: the Guest-Less Episode courtesy OLD NEWS from 2022-03-07T01:38:27
In this guest-less episode, we ( that is to say 'I') talk about: a new OPEN CALL for future guests of this podcast; the opening reception and the show 'It's My House!,' a group show in Ojai that...
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Epis.313: Sam Francis- king of desire, from 2022-02-19T21:22:38
In Part 2 with writer Gabrielle Selz, author of Listen
Epis.312: Writer Gabrielle Selz on Sam Francis, an abstract painter who broke all the rules from 2022-02-05T20:02:49
about: the important first phase of Sam’s long art career, in Paris, where he started working on a big painting from his bed in a tiny hotel room he shared with his girlfriend Muriel; how he was...
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Epis. 311: Sydney Croskery, part 2 of 2- from 2022-01-22T03:45:41
In part 2 of 2 with Los Angeles-based painter Sydney Croskery, she talks about:
connecting with a gallerist -- who has come to represent her – on...
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Epis.310: Sydney Croskery, Los Angeles artist from 2022-01-08T21:22:35
In part 1 of 2 with Los Angeles-based painter Sydney Croskery, she talks about:
transitioning from representation to abstraction during pandemic ...
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Epis.309: Running a gallery, creating community, from 2021-12-25T20:23:59
In part 2 of 2 with multi-hyphenate and Artist Decoded host Yoshino, he talks about:
Working through a...
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Epis.308: Yoshino of Artist Decoded (the podcast), part 1 of 2 from 2021-12-13T00:32:03
In the 1st of two episodes, visual artist, writer, entrepreneur and host of the Artist Decoded podcast, Yoshino talks about: how he shortened...
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Epis.307: a Spanish painter (Antonio Murado) goes to New York City- from 2021-11-26T13:00
Antonio Murado, a New York City-based painter originally from Spain, talks about:
His background in Spain, including several years in the Madrid art scene, before moving to NYC, which he ...
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Episode 306: Collector disconnect, enjoying without owning, and from 2021-11-13T22:01:36
In the final episode with Hannah Wohl (Bound by Creativity), we talk about: her experiences with mega-collector couple Sherry and Joel Mallin, who have an impressive collection and are known as ...
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The challenge of describing contemporary art (even for a writer): from 2021-10-30T20:34:32
In my penultimate conversation with sociologist Hannah Wohl (author of Bound by Creativity) she talks about: the cynicism of sociologists, particularly when...
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Epis.304: Virtual Cafe w/special guest Rose Bricetti from 2021-10-16T19:51:16
In The Conversation’s latest Virtual Café (which took place on 9/24/21, on Zoom), special guest Rose Bricetti and participants talked about: how mem...
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Epis.303: Status Signals, and risking a Lower Status from 2021-10-02T20:56:41
In part 4 of my conversations with sociologist Hannah Wohl (author of Bound by Creativity), we discuss:
Competing clai...
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Epis 302: Hannah Wohl, part 3- from 2021-09-18T21:30:47
In digging into Hannah’s book, ‘Bound by Creativity,’ we talk about: the continued existence of the artist as bohemian (even as ‘enfant terrible’), as personified by the pseudonymous Simon Moser...
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Epis. 301- Bound by Creativity, pt 2 with Hannah Wohl from 2021-09-04T17:49:54
In part 2 with sociologist Hannah Wohl, we continue our conversation by talking ...
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Episode 300- Hannah Wohl on her book Bound by Creativity: part 1 from 2021-08-21T21:43:15
In the first part of a multi-part series, Hannah Wohl, sociologist and author of Listen
Epis. 299- NYC artist and writer Melissa Stern: from 2021-08-07T21:46:23
New York artist and writer Melissa Stern talks about:
Living in a large Chelsea co-op apartment where also has her studio, in a building she calls ‘a community in a box’; her joining an a...
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Best-Of episode with Ben Davis (ArtNet News and from 2021-07-24T07:30
In addition to being a replay of episode 138, from May of 2021, art writer Ben Davis also provides an update on what he thinks about art and activism today, in conjunction with his new book, 'Cu...
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Epis. 298: from cedar salvaging to becoming a landlord from 2021-07-10T03:39:05
Brooklyn-based artist Doug Beube talks about: his internship with photographer Minor White; photographing the circus, and later freelance gigs to m...
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Sharon Butler, painter and the from 2021-06-26T04:56:54
Sharon Butler, NYC Artist and creator and publisher of Two Coats of Paint, talks about:
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Epis.#296: Jennifer Moon, Los Angeles artist, would-be revolutionary,&professor from 2021-06-12T19:04:21
Los Angeles artist Jennifer Moon talks about: getting sober after a long string of drug use benders; navigating ambitions...
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Epis.#295: LA-based photographer Rakeem Cunningham from 2021-05-29T18:34:38
Los Angeles-based artist Rakeem Cunningham talks about: growing up in essentially a small town (Pacoima) within Los Angeles, where he still lives and work...
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Epis.#294: the art of art forgery from 2021-05-15T19:26:54
Law school professor, former general counsel for Pepsico, and novelist (most recently of The Forger’s Forgery) Listen
Epis.#293: When the aim is the immaterial- artist Mitchell Chan from 2021-05-01T20:37:09
Toronto-based conceptual artist Mitchell Chan talks about his epic “Dig...
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Epis.#292: the chirp-less crickets of Kauai: from 2021-04-17T05:17:57
Artist, choreographer and former ballet dancer Madeline Hollander talks about her brief but dramatic professional ballet career and her subsequent transition into becoming a visual artist via ch...
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Epis.#291: How did he make that??! plus... from 2021-04-03T03:55:12
Berlin-based artist Lee Wagstaff talks about his paintings and his recent career boost through his use of the Artist Support Pledge (#artistsupportpledge) ...
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Katarina Wong, part 2 of 2 from 2021-03-20T18:31:28
In the 2nd of two parts, artist Katarina Wong talks about: her collective +1 +1, which foster...
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Epis.#289: Can an artist get completely immersed in the making? Katarina Wong, part 1 of 2 from 2021-03-06T21:28:11
Host Michael Shaw speaks with Katerina Wong, a New York City-based artist, curator, and writer (among other things), about working her way up to VP o...
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Epis.#288: Being a Museum Director during the Trump era from 2021-02-20T19:46:59
Curator, writer and museum director Laura Raicovich talks about the challenges she faced as director of the Queens Museum, particularly around act...
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Epis.#287: Can art workers organize? from 2021-02-06T18:36:33
Artist, writer and art world worker Robin Kasier-Schatzlein talks with Michael Shaw and several listeners in the podcast's latest Virtual Cafe. Robin talks about his 'mini-memoir' from The New R...
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Ep.# 214: Swedish art writer & podcast host Jenny Danielsson from 2021-01-31T22:10:42.023393
Swedish art journalist and podcaster Jenny Danielsson talks w/Conversation host Michael Shaw about gallery-going, art podcasting, what cities artist can afford to live in in the West, Robert Irwin,...
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Ep. # 206: Jeff Greenspan, a Constant Contradiction. from 2021-01-31T22:10:42.023393
Brooklyn-based artist, activist, comedian and advertising creative director Jeff Greenspan talks about the conflicts and contradictions inherent in being both in advertising and activist-oriented a...
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Ep. # 190: Clint Downing of Downing Frames, on how to interact with High Net Worth Individuals and maintaining Best Framer in the Business status from 2021-01-31T22:10:42.023393
Custom framer/owner of Downing Frames Clint Downing talks about:
Starting his business out of his apartment across the street from Pratt, where he...
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Ep. # 189: artist Anne Lindberg: from Kansas City to the Hudson River Valley, and how to use a 10 ft. architectural parallel bar from 2021-01-31T22:10:42.023393
Hudson River Valley-based artist Anne Lindberg talks about:
Her relatively new (as of 2+ years) home in the Hudson River Valley, after having s...
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Curator and NYU Professor Miriam Basilio Discusses Breaking the Museum Diversity Barrier from 2021-01-23T20:35:22
Michael Shaw talks to Miriam Basilio about her job at MOMA curating Latin American Art, helping to integrate the curatorial landscape as a woman from Puerto Rico, low curatorial salaries, her ...
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Matthew Burrows, MBE- English painter from 2021-01-10T02:42:07
English artist Matthew Burrows - founder of Artist Support Pledge, number 37 in ART REVIEW’S Power 100 list 2020, and 2020 Members of the Order of the British Emp... Listen
Epis.#284: 'Best-of' episode with Carolina Miranda from 2020-12-28T03:25:32
For the end-of-year holidays we're re-running our fantastic conversation with Carolina A. Miranda of the L.A. Times, which origin...
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Epis.#283: Los Angeles-Based Artist Colleen Hargaden: from 2020-12-12T05:58:11
Colleen Hargaden discusses her exploration of subcultures and Listen
Epis.#282: Nato Thompson's Indig-Nation from 2020-11-29T01:43:19
In The Conversation’s first guest-featured Virtual Café – our once every few weeks gathering with fellow listeners on Zoom - former guest of the podcast (epis. 152 and 153) Nato Thompson talks a...
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Epis.#281: Steve Lambert (part II of II), on how Capitalism works - from 2020-11-14T20:16:54
In Part 2 with artist Steve Lambert, he discusses his most well-known artwork, Capitalism Works For Me, wherein he prompts participants to decide between “true” and “false” on whether c...
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Epis.#280: Steve Lambert, artist and co-founder of the Center for Artistic Activism from 2020-10-31T23:24:53
Beacon, NY-based artist and professor Steve Lambert talks about the perils of working in ‘new media’ (as opposed to ‘old media’), particularly around scarc...
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Epis.#279: NYC-based Artist Michelle Vaughan from 2020-10-18T21:31:08
Michelle Vaughan discusses her life as an artist in New York City, pre- and during the pandemic, including li...
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Epis.#278: Los Angeles-based sculptor Alicia Piller from 2020-10-03T21:49:16
Los Angeles artist Alicia Piller talks about gradually moving westward, winding up at Cal Arts for her MFA after being charmed during her interview visit. Her time in grad school is described as...
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Epis.#277: New York-based art critic Seph Rodney from 2020-09-19T17:00
Senior Editor for Hyperallergic and New York Times regular contributor Seph Rodney talks about his long journey to becoming a full-ti...
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Epis.#276: Greg Allen on "Naked Stratification" from 2020-09-05T22:17:20
Epis.#275: Greg Allen of greg.org from 2020-08-22T23:34:38
Host Michael Shaw reviews some of artist and cultural critic Greg Allen’s tweet history, providing the opportunity to deconstruct some of his cultural criticisms,...
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Epis.#274: 'A Delightful Nightmare:' LARP-ing the 'Great Success Machine' from 2020-08-08T20:26:10
Artists Till Witwer and Netta Sadovsky discuss the art of creating, facilitating and executin...
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Epis.#273: Los Angeles-Based Painter Forrest Kirk from 2020-07-27T21:54:03
Forrest Kirk is a figurative painter based in Los Angeles; as this episode releases, he has a sold-out show at...
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New York-Based Ayana Evans Reveals Her Honest Experience from 2020-07-11T20:14:06
Ayana Evans discusses her 7-year career as a fashion designer (between being a painter and a performance artist), her impressive endurance-based perform...
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Kate Mothes, nomadic curator behind the platform Young Space from 2020-06-27T20:52:29
Nomadic curator Kate Mothes of Young Space talks about the pros and cons of curating shows in pop-up spaces; how as a curator she's always wanted to be part of...
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Epis.#270: NY-based “Truly Rebellious Artist” Joanne Greenbaum- from 2020-06-13T05:13:56
Joanne Greenbaum talks about her time in Berlin, being one of the few young artists of her time to have a full-time day job, showing up for friend’s art shows but...
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Epis.#269: William Powhida (part 2 of 2) from 2020-05-30T05:57:07
In part two, Brooklyn-based artist and activist William Powhida talks about the ivory tower syndrome that accompanies working at an ivy-league institution, his project Store-To-Own,<...
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Epis.#268: William Powhida (part 1 of 2) from 2020-05-16T05:40:52
Brooklyn-based artist and co-host of the Explain Me podcast talks about the highs and lows of being the art world court jester (including alienating art world players along the way), what it’s l...
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Epis.#267: SoCal artist&professor Elizabeth Folk from 2020-05-02T20:20:34
Central California artist and professor Elizabeth Folk discusses the pros and cons of online higher education during the boom of Zoom. Folk also touche...
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San Francisco-based artist Danielle Baskin from 2020-04-18T20:28:09
Danielle Baskin discusses how being an artist and app developer has, now more than ever...
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Epis. 265: on Jordan Wolfson's 'Hot and Toxic' art, from 2020-04-04T22:21:36
This episode of The Conversation we discuss the profile of artist Jordan Wolfson in the March 16 issue of The New Yorker magazine by Dana Goodyear, which in part follows a thread Deb and I talk...
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Epis.# 264: the COVID-19 Special from 2020-03-28T05:58:38
In this Covid-19 special of The Conversation, Deb Klowden Mann and I talk about:
Our respective experiences with the pandemic, including lots of cons but a few pros as well, and how she’s...
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Episode 263: Brooklyn-based artist and adjunct professor Alex Strada from 2020-03-14T19:07:51
Brooklyn-based artist and adjunct professor Alex Strada talks about:
Why she makes specialized artist’s contracts even though her own work tends not to be object-oriented, which is a femi...
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Epis.#262: Amy Kisch, Bay-Area curator, art advisor and organizer from 2020-02-29T19:10:16
Bay Area co-director of Art+Action, head of AK Art Advisory and former Sotheby’s gatekeeper Amy Kisch talks about :
Epis. 261: interim Co-Host Deb Klowden Mann from 2020-02-15T16:00
Interim co-host Deb Klowden Mann, a gallerist based in Culver City, and I talk about:
Why I continue to do the show and the desire for and challenge of finding a permanent co-host; Gen-X,...
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Epis.#260: painter and professor Sara Frantz from 2020-02-01T06:08:04
Painter and Cal Poly San Luis Obispo professor Sara Frantz talks about :
Photographing the la...
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Epis.#259: Carl Baratta, L.A. artist and co-director of TSA L.A. from 2020-01-18T07:52:33
L.A. artist and co-director of Tiger Strikes Asteroid Los Angeles Carl Baratta talks about: Listen
Epis.# 258: The 'Meta' Episode/Search for a Co-Host from 2020-01-07T06:26:31
The Conversation is seeking a co-host for the podcast- to switch gears and tweak the format. It is also the perfect opportunity to talk with several past and current contributors to the show: mu...
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Epis.#257: Nick Brown-- L.A. painter and director of the Davyde Whaley Foundation from 2019-12-21T23:14:35
L.A.-based painter Davyd Whaley Foundation director Nick Brown talks about :<...
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Epis.#256: Sarah Friend-- internet artist and software engineer-- from 2019-12-08T03:55:02
ᐧCanadian but now Berlin-based artist and software engineer Sarah Friend...
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Epis.#255: Laura Krifka-- painter and professor-- from 2019-11-23T07:10:04
Painter and Cal Poly San Luis Obispo professor Laura Krifka talks about:
How her work is at its core about seduction, built through scenarios of being seduced, and how she constructs each...
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Episode 254: Ingrid LaFleur-- Detroit-based curator and artist, as well as from 2019-11-09T19:29:23
Detroit-based artist, curator, Afrofuturist and former mayoral candidate Ingrid LaFleur talks about:
Running fo...
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Epis.#253: Lauren van Haaften-Schick-- from 2019-10-26T20:02:18
ᐧArtists’ rights and laws expert and PhD Candidate Lauren van Haaften-Schick talks about:
Her first big experience with the secondary market via the runaway auction sale...
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Epis.#252: Oakland-based artist Ann Schnake from 2019-10-11T17:30
Ann Schnake, an East Bay artist and the co-founder of the Oakland project space Dream ...
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Epis.#251: Berlin-based Greek artist Valentina Karga from 2019-09-22T05:15:36
Berlin-based Greek artist Valentina Karga talks about:
Her artwork (and project from Max Haiven’s Art After Money…book) Valenti...
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Epis # 250: Turning studio art into socially engaged art— from 2019-09-07T20:03:29
In a follow-up conversation I had with artist Cassie Thornton (of epis. 248), I share with her my interest in moving some of art-making into the socially engaged realm, in particular related to ...
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Epis.#249: London-based artist/Furtherfield founder Ruth Catlow's journey from 2019-08-24T05:43:37
Artist and co-director of London’s Furtherfield (London’s longest-running arts organization dedicated to de-centralized network culture) talks about:<...
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Lisa Schiff, art advisor: a re-release of Epis.#99 from 2019-08-10T06:00
It's mid-August of 2019, and while The Conversation takes a week off, we are re-releasing this Blast from the Past, Lisa Schiff from episode #99, which was originally released on Jan. 3rd, 2015....
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Epis.#248: Cassie Thornton, the ultimate socially engaged artist from 2019-07-28T02:25:57
Thunder Bay, Ontario and Bay Area artist Cassie Thornton talks about:
Her origins in northern Illinois, where she mainly grew up wit...
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Epis.#247: Art After Money, the Final Chapter-- from 2019-07-13T05:38:44
In the final episode with Art After Money author Max Haiven, we talk about:
The history of and the current fate of artist collectives, as prompted by...
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Epis.#246: Paolo Cirio, New York-based political artist, activist and hacker, from 2019-06-30T05:24:55
New York (and sometimes Europe)-based artist, internet activist and hacker Paolo Cirio talks about:
How he makes a living as an artist, mainly throug...
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Epis.#245: Samuel Harvey- Aspen, Colorado-based artist and gallerist-- from 2019-06-15T05:11:18
Samuel Harvey, Aspen-based artist and gallerist (Harvey Preston gallery) talks about:
How he initially settled in Aspen, through his various times working and teaching at the Anderson Ran...
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Epis.#244: Renny Pritikin, godfather of the Bay Area art scene from 2019-06-01T21:23:37
Renny Pritikin, godfather of the Bay Area art community, veteran curator and author of the manifesto “Prescription for a Healthy Art Scene,” talks about:
Being a young poet who got into c...
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Art After Money-- part 3 with Max Haiven from 2019-05-18T03:01
In part 3 with Max Haiven, author of Art after Money, Money After Art, we talk about:
The influence (or lack thereof) of academia on the art market; the concept of writer Lauren Berlant’s...
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Epis.#242: Lee Lozano's martyrdom, Hans Haacke's 'painful' piece challenging MoMA,& from 2019-05-04T06:40:25
In part 2 with Max Haiven, author of Art After Money, Money After Art, we dig into his book in earnest, including readings of and discussions about: his studies of social movements; how philosop...
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Epis.#241: Natasha Degen, chair of Art Market Studies at FIT from 2019-04-20T20:42:52
Natasha Degen, Chair of the Art Market Studies program at FIT (Fashion Institute of Technology) in New York, talks about:
Juggling both art market research (including attending art fairs ...
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Epis. # 240: "Art After Money, Money After Art" from 2019-04-06T07:22:45
Lakehead University professor and Art after Money, Money After Art author Max Haiven talks about: the ‘Dark Matter’ of the art world (coined by Gregory Sholette); the myth of meritocrac...
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epis. 239: Rainey Knudson, Editor of Glasstire, part 2 of 2 from 2019-03-23T06:27:31
In the 2nd part of the conversation with Glasstire editor Rainey Knudson, she talks about:
The farewell tour leading to her departure from Glasstire ...
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Epis.# 238: Rainey Knudson, editor/publisher of Glasstire (pt. 1 of 2) from 2019-03-09T20:03:15
Rainey Knudson, the editor of Houston-based online art magazine Glasstire, talks about:
The evolution of Glasstire, including when she started making ...
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Epis.# 237: Anna Schachte, L.A.-based artist from 2019-02-23T07:07:26
Los Angeles-based artist Anna Schachte talks about:
Her (and her family’s) decision to leave New York for L.A., including about to have a 2nd ...
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Jeff Weiss, L.A.-based artist and creator of OLD NEWS (aka Weiss link) from 2019-02-02T04:45:34
Jeff Weiss, artist, former professor of art, and creator of the OLD NEWS email list (aka Weisslink), talks about:
How and why he started OLD NEWS (...
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Epis.# 235: Art in the 21st Century with Nick Ravich of Art21 from 2019-01-19T22:42:06
Nick Ravich, director of production for Art21 in New York, talks about:
His approach as both a producer and a director of Art21 artist docs, which are produced i...
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Epis.# 234: Simon Leung, L.A. artist&head of the MFA program at UC Irvine from 2019-01-06T00:37:56
Simon Leung, Los Angeles-based artist and head of UC Irvine’s MFA program, talks about:
His 25-year relati...
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Epis.# 233: Kristen Haring, youngest sister of the late Keith Haring from 2018-12-22T07:19:25
In part 3 of 3 from the Donum Estate winery in Sonoma, Kristen Haring, technology writer, Keith Haring Foundation board member and youngest sister of the late Keith Haring, talks about:
H...
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Epis.# 232: "Art Advice" from Sacramento-based Ianna and Gioia from 2018-12-08T19:29:29
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Epis.# 231: "The Price of Everything" producers Jennifer Blei Stockman and Debi Wisch from 2018-11-24T04:42:42
Debi Wisch and Jennifer Blei Stockman, two of the three main producers of the documentary The Price of Everything, about art ...
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Epis.# 230: NYC-based art consultant Daniel Oglander from 2018-11-10T05:52:18
On the 7th anniversary of The Conversation, NYC-based art consultant and secondary market seller Daniel Oglander talks about:
His daily routine as an art advisor who works from home; a mu...
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Epis.# 229: Richard Hudson, English sculptor based in Madrid from 2018-10-27T18:58:20
Madrid-based English sculptor Richard Hudson, onsite at Donum Estate winery, talks about:
The history of both the concept and production of his large-scale sculpture “Love Me,” completed ...
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Ep. #228: Jordan Seiler, New York-based artist and public ad interventionist from 2018-10-13T05:11:13
New York-based artist and outdoor advertising interventionist Jordan Seiler talks about:
Being both an artist and an activist, titles which ...
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Introducing "How I Get By" podcast from 2018-10-06T19:10:06
Introducing Conversation Art Podcast listeners to Michael Shaw's new podcast, How I Get By.
Episode 1 features Julie R.
She works as a substitute teacher and a babysitter in Boulde...
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Ep. #227: London sculptor Douglas White on harvesting roadside rubber from 2018-09-29T06:02:10
London-based sculptor Douglas White talks about: the harvesting of blown-out tires on the side of the road in Belize, which were collected and turne...
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Ep. #226: Brigitte Mulholland, assoc.director at Anton Kern in New York from 2018-09-15T06:19:36
Brigitte Mulholland, associate director at Anton Kern gallery, talks about:
Her early turning points that led her away from traditional art history (and early marriage) and into contempor...
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Ep. #225: Las Vegas-based artist and UNLV art dept. chair Marcus Civin from 2018-09-01T05:44:15
Performance artist, art critic and newly minted UNLV art department chair Marcus Civin talks about:
Why he decided to take the job, moving from a sat...
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Ep. #224: NYC artist Joshua Citarella, part 2 of 2, on the precarity of freelancing, 'cloud feudalism,' and the gilded age of income inequality from 2018-08-18T05:41:28
In the 2nd half of our long conversation, NYC-based artist Joshua Citarella talks about:
The end of his run making a living from his work – by se...
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Ep. #223: NYC-based artist Joshua Cittarella from 2018-08-11T05:38:47
In the part 1 of 2 episodes, NYC artist Joshua Citarella talks about:
Why he grew disillusioned with the art world vis-à-vis the a...
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Ep. #222: Brooklyn-based artist Hein Koh goes viral from 2018-07-28T05:18:57
New York-based artist/sculptor Hein Koh talks about:
Her multiple living spots throughout New York, from Astoria to Bedford Stuyvesant (where she he...
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Ep. #221: Social media consultant and influencer Robin Cembalest from 2018-07-14T18:53:48
Social media influencer and consultant Robin Cembalest (with 45K IG followers) talks about:
How she went from art magazine writing and editing to working more and more prominently in soci...
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Ep. #220: Lucas Spivey of the Mobile Incubator and Culture Hustlers podcast from 2018-06-30T02:51:57
Lucas Spivey of the roving projects Mobile Incubator and Culture Hustlers talks about:
His origin story of ...
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Ep. #219: Margaret Carrigan, art writer/journalist based in NYC from 2018-06-16T06:32:07
Brooklyn, and occasionally London-based art writer Margaret Carrigan talks about:
The challenges of being a freelance art journalist, including co...
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Ep. #218: Lee Wagstaff, an English, Berlin-based artist from 2018-06-01T21:45:20
Berlin-based artist Lee Wagstaff talks about: Leaving London several years in advance of the 2012 Olympics, when he saw the writing on the wall in ter...
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Ep. #217: Courtney Childress, Queens (NY)-based artist from 2018-05-19T04:37:29
Ridgewood, Queens, New York-based artist and former gallery director Courtney Childress talks about:
The gentrification factor in Ridegewood, a...
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Hilde Lynn Helphenstein of HILDE Gallery from 2018-05-05T05:13:29
Hilde Helphenstein of Los Angeles gallery HILDE talks about: combating the male dominated art world and art history, her path from being a 26-year-old-intern ...
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Ep.# 215: Anna Stothart, director at Lehman Maupin gallery in NYC from 2018-04-21T06:45:15
Anna Stothart, director at Lehman Maupin in New York, talks about:
Language used in and around art history, in both gallery and museum contexts including presentations tailored to differe...
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Ep.# 213: Katrina Neumann of Rivet and Rate My Artist Residency, on art-meets-tech-meets-business from 2018-03-23T22:00
Artist and budding tech entrepreneur Katrina Neumann on art-meets-tech-meets-business, and keeping a knife under her bed for safety during her Berlin artist residency
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Ep.# 212: MASS MoCA curator Denise Markonish, on globe-trotting studio visits and producing on a Massive scale from 2018-03-09T02:43:48
curator Denise Markonishon globe-trotting studio visits - including 400 studio visits over three years across the country for the show "Oh, Canada," and producing shows on a Massive scale
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Ep.# 211: Scott Ogden of NYC gallery Shrine, on working with mix of outsider and contemporary artists from 2018-02-24T07:23:35
Scott Ogden talks about working with mix of outsider and contemporary artists in his Chinatown-based NYC gallery Shrine.
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Ep.# 210: "Pretentiousness--Why it Matters" with author and Frieze magazine writer Dan Fox from 2018-02-10T02:36:21
Dan Fox talks about:
The English accent in the U.S., what they mean when they use the word “pretentious,” we have a rather intense debate about selfie-focused art-goers, particularly vis-à-vis ...
Ep.# 209, Claire Carter, curator at the Scottsdale Museum of Contemporary Art, on spies and art opening invite etiquette from 2018-01-28T05:29:43
Ep.# 209, Claire Carter, curator at Scottsdale Museum of Contemporary Art, on spies and art opening invite etiquette
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Ep.# 208, Stef Halmos: a Brooklyn-based artist breaks ground on launching a new art community upstate from 2018-01-13T00:52:30
a Brooklyn-based artist breaks ground on launching a new art community upstate, in Catskill, NY
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Ep.# 207: Chris Kallmyer, L.A.-based sound artist from 2017-12-29T19:00
on pairing music with cheese, the Paradise Choir - avant garde/abstract music performance in various museum spaces - and civic-minded gentrification in El Sereno, a Hispanic/Spanish-speaking neigh...
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Ep. # 205: Gracie Mansion, legendary art dealer-- from the East Village to SoHo to Chelsea to online auctions from 2017-12-02T21:09:31
from the East Village to SoHo to Chelsea to online auctions.
Gracie recount in great detail the highs and lows of running an art gallery, starting out of the loo of her East Village apartment ...
Ep. # 204: Nina Katchadourian from 2017-11-18T19:35:29
Brooklyn and Berlin-based artist, on cross-cultural living and turning Hold music into Dance Parties
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Ep. # 203: MRS. - the rise of a young gallery in Queens, NYC, with Sara Maria Salamone and Tyler Lafreniere from 2017-11-04T05:30:50
We get into the reasons behind the rise of a young gallery in Maspeth, Queens, NYC. Including discussion of art fairs, the importance of social media for building collectors, and the perils of over...
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Ep. # 202: Ellen Harvey, Brooklyn-based artist, from Wall Street to Williamsburg to the Miami Beach Convention Center from 2017-10-21T05:44:11
from Wall Street to Williamsburg to the Miami Convention Center
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Ep. # 201: David Maisel, Marin County (Bay Area)-based photographer, on moving West, the view from Muir Beach and photographing from the sky from 2017-10-07T04:04:39
Marin County-based photographer David Maisel talks about: how transformative the experience of being in Marin County has been, how he first got into photographing from the sky (via plane and helico...
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Episode #200: Maya Gurantz, Los Angeles-based artist and writer, takes on James Turrell, Carl Andre, Mike Kelley and messiness from 2017-09-23T05:31:12
Maya Gurantz, Los Angeles-based artist and writer, takes on James Turrell, Carl Andre, Mike Kelley and messiness
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Ep.#199: Matt Starr: New York-based artist, performer and 'conceptual comedian' from 2017-09-09T04:03:47
Matt Starr on: Babycore, Amazon Boy, Annie Hall with Seniors as the stars, and the I'm Sorry project.
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Ep. # 198: New York gallerist Jimi Dams, of Envoy Enterprises, eviscerates the state of the art world, but also sets an example of how to make it better from 2017-08-26T06:23:41
New York gallerist Jimi Dams, of Envoy Enterprises, eviscerates the state of the art world, but also sets an example of how to make it better
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Ep.#197: Kate McQuillen, Brooklyn-based artist on leaving a broken marriage, moving to NY from Chicago and the value of therapy to help put it all in perspective from 2017-08-12T03:30
Brooklyn-based artist Kate McQuillen talks about:
Moving to Greenpoint, Brooklyn from Chicago, a move she made rather abruptly though cushioned the transition with brief stints in Connecticut a...
# 196: Matthew Gardocki, formerly of Patrick Painter and Mark Moore galleries, on managing a gallery, navigating the market(s), and interviewing for jobs as a father of a 2-year-old from 2017-07-30T21:53:29
Los Angeles-based Matthew Gardocki, former gallery manager at Patrick Painter and Mark Moore galleries, talks about:
His decade-plus time working for two long-running L.A. galleries, the differ...
Ep. # 195: Brooklyn-based artist Jean Shin on finding a way to live & work in NYC on an artist's income, her massive 2nd Avenue Subway public artwork and being on the board of the Joan Mitchell Foundation from 2017-07-15T06:50:01
Brooklyn-based artist Jean Shin talks about:
Gradually turning her Hudson Valley barn originally bought for art storage into a summer/weekend retreat...
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Ep. # 194: NY artist Grayson Earle "eats a burrito while talking to himself a little" and tax deducts it, embraces chaos, and gets arrested for projecting words onto the Met from 2017-07-01T07:16:24
Brooklyn-based artist and activist Grayson Earle talks about:
His unplanned landing in Brooklyn, where he couch-surfed into a commune-style house, ...
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Ep. # 193: Will Cotton, New York artist, creator of elaborate candyland fantasies, on being grateful for what he gets to make, even when others aren't from 2017-06-17T19:33:44
New York artist Will Cotton talks about:
His neighborhood of Tribeca, where he and his girlfriend bought a place, and how he's seeing Chelsea gallerie...
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Epis. #192: Clearfield, Pennsylvania-based artist Rebecca Morgan talks about: Her hometown of Clearfield, a financially distressed former coal town, where she currently lives in the home she grew up in with her mom, in between teaching gigs in other state from 2017-06-03T21:25:51
Clearfield, Pennsylvania-based artist Rebecca Morgan talks about:
Her hometown of Clearfield, a financially distressed former coal tow...
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Ep. # 191: Tim Schneider, Los Angeles-based writer behind The Gray Market, shining a light on the shadowy fine art industry from 2017-05-20T21:48:24
Los Angeles-based art business writer Tim Schneider, creator of The Gray Market blog, talks about:
His nerd roots in the Mi...
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