TCC Podcast #47: Overcoming Impostor Complex with Tanya Geisler - a podcast by Kira Hug and Rob Marsh

Do you struggle with impostor syndrome (or more accurately impostor complex)? Then you’re going to love this episode. Tanya Geisler stops by The Copywriter Club Podcast to talk with Rob and Kira all about why we struggle to believe in ourselves and our work. It’s an evolutionary behavior that’s designed to protect us, but in today’s modern world, often keeps us from doing our best and most important work. In this interview Tanya shares:
•  the background on the “discovery” of impostor complex•  how it affects both men and women
•  the three primary reasons we have impostor complex•  the 12 lies of the impostor complex
•  the six behavioral traits we default to when we experience impostor complexPlus Tanya shares a simple “hack” for dealing with the impostor complex when it rears its ugly head. You’re going to want to listen to this one. Click the play button below, or scroll down for a full transcript.


The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:Sponsor: AirStory

Tanya’s TED TalkPauline Clance
Suzanne Imes
Secret Thoughts of Successful WomenNeil Gaimon
Amanda PalmerMeryl Streep
Maya AngelouJohn Lennon
Brene BrownDunning Kruger Effect
Liz GilbertChumba Wumba
OpenSource.comMean Girls
Amy CuddyMalcom Gladwell
Kira’s websiteRob’s website
The Copywriter Club Facebook GroupIntro: Content (for now)
Outro: GravityFull Transcript:
The Copywriter Club Podcast is sponsored by Airstory, the writing platform for professional writers who want to get more done in half the time. Learn more at Airstory.co/club.Rob: What if you could hang out with seriously talented copywriters and other experts, ask them about their successes and failures, their work processes, and their habits, then steal an idea or two to inspire your own work. That’s what Kira and I do every week at The Copywriter Club Podcast.

Kira: You’re invited to join the club for Episode 47 as we chat with leadership coach Tanya Geisler about the Imposter Syndrome and owning your authority, working with a coach, amplifying your voice, and how copywriters can deal with the comparison trap.Rob: Hey, Tanya. Hey, Kira.

Kira: You’re welcome.Tanya: That’s so much for having me. Real excited to be here.

Rob: We’re excited to have you here.Kira: Yeah. Tanya, you were recommended from one of our club members, Helen, who said that all the conversations in our club right now are ... Well, not all of them, but a lot of them are around feeling like an imposter, a lot of self-doubt, especially because we have a lot of new copywriters in our club. This is what you talk about day in and day out. So we’re really grateful that you’re here to kind of just address this challenge that we all are facing head on, and hopefully we can help some copywriters along the way.

Tanya: May it be so.Kira: A good place to start is with your story. You know what, especially as I’ve heard you, I’ve heard your name in the past, watched your TED video, checked out your website, and you’ve stepped into your starring role, but I always wonder, when did you do that, and was it easy for you? Were you always in a starring role? Could you tell us your story?

Tanya: I want to laugh. The first thing I want to do is laugh. Yeah, it was so easy. No, not much about this has been easy at all. It’s been tons of self-doubt, tons of, “What do I know? Who am I?” I talk about there are 12 lies that the Imposter Complex wants us to believe. And I believed them for probably the first ... Even if I put a name, a number on this, I worry that it’s going to trigger people, but really and truly for probably the first four to five years of my work as a leadership coach I was really coming up against the Imposter Complex, like huge. And what I started to recognize was this through line that was inhibiting me from stepping into my starring role. That wasn’t the language that I would’ve had back then, but the through line that was inhibiting me from being ...

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