14 - England need to be more pragmatic - a podcast by The Times

Gabriele Marcotti is joined by regulars Oli Kay, Julien Laurens and Tony Cascarino to debate the apparent lack of quality in the England v Scotland World Cup qualifier at Wembley. Plus, Times writer Paul Joyce joins the panel to discuss his column on the troubled times of former Everton starlet Jose Baxter; and we also feature part two of our interview with MP Damian Collins. Find out more at www.thetimes.co.uk

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