A conversation on Cardiff's conduct and reminiscing about reducers - a podcast by The Times

After an eventful FA Cup 4th round weekend, Gab Marcotti is joined by Alyson Rudd and Stewart Robson to discuss the furore over the foul by Joe Bennett on Leroy Sane, and fixate on the flaws in VAR and Liverpool's defence. Plus can Moura bring more to Spurs and will Aubameyang advance Arsenal?

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