Expectation and exhaustion weigh down Liverpool & Spurs - a podcast by The Times

After a derbylicious weekend, Natalie Sawyer and Gab Marcotti are in the company of Alyson Rudd, Matthew Syed and Paul Joyce with plenty to discuss.

Liverpool are held by Everton and lose the leadership of the Premier League. Is the pressure building on Jurgen Klopp and his players or are they suffering from a lack of depth?

The North London derby was packed full of incident but also ended all square. Find out which Tottenham player is NOT a horse, as we ask has the return of Kane stopped Son from shining?

Alyson watched a man of the match display from the villainous Kepa for Chelsea at Craven Cottage and we appraise the start of the Scott Parker era at Fulham.

Also on the agenda - will VAR rid football of controversy? Is there any room for a chess radio phone-in? And what are Stockport County up to these days?

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