It's football, but not as we know it... - a podcast by The Times

Nat & Gregor are joined by Matt Dickinson to cast their expert eyes across inventive ways to make football behind closed doors work. Virtual season tickets, fake crowd noises and even drive through football!

All that plus more on Wayne Rooney insisting he's not a natural goalscorer, and Gregor tells us what it's like to face Andres Iniesta on the pitch.

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