In the Cauldron with Mythic Time and Gordon White of Rune Soup&Ani.Mystic - a podcast by Kathryn Fink

Tumble into a winding dialogue about decolonized time, the magic of body and place, and right relationship with the living world in this swapcast between myself and Gordon White, author of the upcoming Ani.Mystic and creator of Rune Soup.

Gordon and I decided to do something a little different, and much more mythic timey, so instead of a traditional interview, we had a long and circuitous chat with one another.|| 3:58 || Get to know Kathryn 

|| 8:18 || Get to know Gordon|| 33:40 || Animism, whiteness, empire

|| 44:10 || Introducing mythic time|| 52:13 || Defining mythic time vs. colonized time

|| 1:10:22 || The role of time in magical practice|| 1:23:33 || Mythic time as anti-empire

|| 1:35:33 || Reviving vs. revivifying and conservation vs. relationship (please also refer to additional context and reading below)FURTHER DELVING re: the conversation around climate crisis

Since this was a fairly quick and impromptu part of our conversation, and because someone listening might not have the context of knowing Gordon or myself well, I want to state clearly: Sustained individual and collective action is required to address the crisis our planet faces, including climate collapse. And I hope we do so in a way that dismantles rather than replicates racism, capitalist frameworks, or supremacism worldviews.Interview with Rowen White, Seedkeeper and activist for Indigenous seed sovereignty: https://bit.ly/3lSHAzf
Quick intro to racism in the environmental/conservation movement: https://bit.ly/36RAIO5Medium read: https://bit.ly/39Oset1 
Long read: https://www.fs.fed.us/pnw/pubs/gtr534.pdfAlso check out many of the relevant interviews on the For the Wild podcast https://forthewild.world 



FURTHER DELVING re: Mythic TimeThe Heart Is a Veil, Lifted: Feasting with the ancestors in mythic time https://bit.ly/2K4hziY
Check the bibliography from that episode https://bit.ly/33UqsCXMORE ON GORDON

To watch today’s conversation in video form: Link coming soon!RuneSoup https://runesoup.com
Gordon’s episode on Pattern Logic: https://bit.ly/36UyqxGStay tuned for Gordon’s new book Ani.Mystic, coming from Scarlet Imprint scarletimprint.com
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