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The Lawyer's Daughter | The Golden State Killer

I'm Jennifer Carole and I am the Lawyer's Daughter. My dad (a lawyer) and my stepmom were murdered in March 1980 in Ventura, California. Through cold case detective work and DNA, our crime was linked to the notorious Golden State Killer. The pod includes real-time reporting and memories. It's just me so I'll be using a live, radio style of podcasting. Feedback always welcome! PS: the blog is LawyersDaughter.com.

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The Lawyer's Daughter | The Golden State Killer
April 24, 2023 | Five Years After DeAngelo’s Arrest from 2023-04-24T18:29:11

I apologize in advance, the audio isn't the best, but hopefully, my enthusiasm will shine through. I promise to get some help before I record again. This episode marks the five-year anniversary ...

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Mar 18, 2021 | Let's talk! Are You Addicted to Chaos? from 2021-03-18T15:50:21

Let's have a little fun while we prepare to start moving out of the pandemic (hopefully). Chaos junkies are starting to learn how to chill-out. Are you a chaos junkie? Here's the article I discu...

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Mar 3, 2021 | Understanding the Importance of the Halo Effect from 2021-03-03T12:00

We all do it. It's part of our humanness and yet, relying on the Halo Effect can really undermine our safety and cause us to trust people who aren't trustworthy. Here's how it works.

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Feb 23, 2021 | Pt 2 - Self-Gaslighting featuring Paige Bendt from 2021-02-23T17:43:30

Last week we talked about gaslighting and how we can do this to others without even realizing it. Especially our loved ones! Paige Bendt takes a different angle on gaslighting - what we do to ou...

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Feb 16, 2021 | Pt. 1 | Gaslighting We Do and Gaslighting that Happens to Us from 2021-02-16T12:00

It started with a movie and now it's an integral part of our culture. It's bad for mental health and it's part and parcel of being a trauma survivor. In part one, I review the basics and include...

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Feb 9, 2021 | Using Your Feelings to Heal Trauma from 2021-02-09T11:59:28

Kris Pedretti asked me to do a presentation I'd done privately for a few folks. It applies what I learned as a Life Coach to how we live with the pain of trauma. I suggest ways to use feelings o...

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BONUS!! | Kris Pedretti and It's Time to Tell Your Story from 2021-02-05T11:20:16

Kris is a survivor of Joe DeAngelo and is working to give voice to victims of sexual assault. Her private group on Facebook is a won...

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Feb 2, 2021 | GSK Joe DeAngelo is in Corcoran State Prison from 2021-02-02T12:11:59

I'm back. Podcasting is hard in a pandemic! Today we talk about Joseph DeAngelo and Corcoran State Prison - his new home. I also assign some homework for upcoming shows so you're ready to dig in...

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Oct 5, 2020 | GSK Updates and a Look at a DeAngelo-Inspired California Proposition 20 from 2020-10-05T18:29:12

I start the pod talking about Kris Pedretti's group and how it's growing. Then a closer look at the Missing Cases of JJD and the progress we're making there. Finally, a quick discussion of a Cal...

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Oct 1, 2020 | Golden State Killer Survivor Gay Hardwick Post Conviction from 2020-10-01T09:33:05

You saw Gay and Bob on the HBO show I'll Be Gone in the Dark. You heard her powerful "paper" metaphor in her victim impact statement. Now hear what was behind those powerful moments. She also sh...

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The Lawyer's Daughter | The Golden State Killer
Sep 25, 2020 | Opus Peace: Healing Soul Injuries (Trauma) from 2020-09-25T17:40:18

These amazing women who worked as hospice nurses for our nation's soldiers share what they've learned about trauma and the key to healing. While on their deathbeds, these soldiers experienced ma...

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Sep 24, 2020 | Cuties Controversy: The Danger of Sexualizing Young Girls from 2020-09-25T17:28:48

The controversy over the movie Cuties missed the point. While Netflix hopelessly botched the marketing of the movie in the United States, the reality is the director made the movie to address th...

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The Lawyer's Daughter | The Golden State Killer
Aug 26, 2020 | Now | Post DeAngelo Sentencing: Tying Up Loose Ends from 2020-08-27T17:51:46

Ep 58 | August 26, 2020 | Lots of little threads from last week and over the weekend I wanted to follow-up on so we're all on the same page. Last episode of "Season 2" of the Lawyer's Daughter. ...

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Aug 21, 2020 | Golden State Killer: Sentencing Joseph DeAngelo from 2020-08-21T16:58:42

Ep 57| August 21, 2020 | Sentencing of Joe DeAngelo Debrief. We discuss what we saw, heard, and think about what happened today. WE ARE FREE!

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Aug 20, 2020 | Zoom | Golden State Killer: Victim Impact Statements Day 3 from 2020-08-21T14:39:31

Murder Thursday - with victims from California speaking about the murders committed by Joseph DeAngelo, the Golden State Killer, East Area Rapist, Visalia Ransacker. Here's the rundown and a bit...

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Aug 19, 2020 | Zoom | Golden State Killer: Victim Impact Statements Day 2 (unedited) from 2020-08-19T20:12:29

Ep 55 | August 19, 2020 | Rape Victims rfrom the other jurisdictions shared their statements today. Once again, a little unexpected delight. I believe you can see them via KCRA archive, link bel...

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Aug 19, 2020 | Now | Why Detective Larry Crompton Is No Hero from 2020-08-19T19:58:01

WARNING: Explicit Content. Not for children.

Ep 54 | Aug 19, 2020 | Larry Crompton worked on the Rapist Task Force in Contra Costa County during the East Area Rapist years. He wrote a bo...

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Aug 18, 2020 | Zoom | Golden State Killer Victim Impact Statements Day 1 (unedited) from 2020-08-19T13:08:23

WARNING: Because I'm trying to go really fast, I'm posting without music, without any editing. This is funny and serious and everything you'd expect. Includes technical difficulties. Enjoy! 

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Aug 17, 2020 | Court | DeAngelo's Masturbating in Jail | You're Welcome from 2020-08-17T09:59:44

I'm sure you're shocked. The question is, who was he looking at when he did it! This morning there was a rushed hearing on DeAngelo's demeanor. Here's what happened.

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Aug 13, 2020 | I Was a Suspect in the Murder of Lyman and Charlene Smith from 2020-08-13T19:16:33

While I've talked about this tangentially in other podcasts, I don't think I ever did the deep dive about what happened that day and the days, weeks and years after that. This shaped who I am to...

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Aug 11, 2020 | Ann Marie Shubert Looking for Sacramento Stories about the East Area Rapist from 2020-08-11T18:31:10

Not a real episode, just a shout out to anyone interested. A press release went out today - Listen

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August 3, 2020 | Understanding the Golden State Killer Economy from 2020-08-03T17:03:48

Episode 49 | August 3, 2020 | Ever wonder if victims of big crimes make money? Wonder about who is making money? Welcome to the serial killer economy - or how one sadist is keeping lots of peopl...

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July 31, 2020 | "Good Girls" Will Speak Out Against Joseph DeAngelo from 2020-07-31T12:00

Episode 48 | July 31, 2020 | If you want to piss off a female victim, all you have to do is hint that someone is going to review their witness impact statement. Here's what it did to our Golden ...

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July 30, 2020 | Finding My Voice for the Victim Impact Statement from 2020-07-30T18:28:08

Episode 47 | July 30, 2020 | When considering the point of view of a victim impact statement, who do we truly represent? This caused me to consider a lot of angles - my dad's, my brothers, mine....

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Jul 17, 2020 | The Secret Wedding of Lyman and Charlene Smith from 2020-07-17T17:12:48

So many things get lost over the years. Photos, trinkets, things that help us remember. But for the most part, I remember the prologue to my dad and Charlene's wedding. I sometimes wonder why th...

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The Lawyer's Daughter | The Golden State Killer
Jul 15, 2020 | How to Prepare a Victim Impact Statement from 2020-07-15T20:23:27

NOTE: the speed is fast on this recording and I have no idea why. My apologies!

Turns out, this is a little more complicated than I thought. Also, being part of this ginormous case means ...

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The Lawyer's Daughter | The Golden State Killer
July 8, 2020 | HBO Refuses to Remove Bogus Holes' Theory from 2020-07-08T18:00:14

My apologies up front, this is a very raw video. I thought long and hard about it, but after talking with my new therapist, I know they only thing that ever helps me is the truth. And while I sh...

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July 6, 2020 | Letting Go During Our Lunar Renewal Ceremony from 2020-07-07T15:49:50

One week after DeAngelo, the convicted Golden State Killer, (feels so nice to say that), entered his plea, I needed a way to let Charlene and my dad go. The full moon is a powerful source of ren...

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June 30, 2020 | Now | Convicted! Post-conviction Zoom Discussion from 2020-07-01T20:23:28

Joseph DeAngelo, the horrendous, sadistic, brutal Golden State Killer, is convicted. I still kind of can't believe it. We did a Zoom meeting to talk about what everyone experienced and I share s...

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Jun 27, 2020 | Now | Like a Phoenix Rising (Two Days Before Court) from 2020-06-27T12:41:08

It is possible for one's brain to simply say "enough". That was me yesterday. After a nice evening with Kris and Gay just prepping for today (gathering of victims and some new faces) and Monday,...

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Jun 25, 2020 | Now | Four Days Before the Big Day from 2020-06-25T14:34:36

I promised to share "how it feels" and it's not pleasant. There's too much going on and that's tough. I knew it would get rough but I underestimated how rough. I'm heading out to see Victim 1 wh...

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June 15, 2020 | Zoom Live: Recording from Today's Discussion from 2020-06-15T20:57:17

This was amazing. Thank you to all who came. When I squeal at the beginning, that's totally legit as I could see every sweet smiling face and so many names I recognized. While anything could hap...

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June 15, 2020 | DeAngelo is Taking a Plea from 2020-06-15T12:59:28

I recorded this on June 3, literally took me three days just to live with the news to be able to talk about it. I had to hold this until the news broke.  It's breaking today. I have no words for...

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The Lawyer's Daughter | The Golden State Killer
June 13, 2020 | Uncovering DeAngelo's History with "Deep Throat" | Part 2 from 2020-06-13T19:01:57

Here's part two. As we pour over what Deep Throat has uncovered about DeAngelo, I'm am not surprised he has more crimes that aren't currently included in his "portfolio". I'm having a hard time ...

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June 13, 2020 | Uncovering DeAngelo's History with "Deep Throat" | Part 1 from 2020-06-13T19:00:09

I've called her that from almost the first day. Desperate to maintain her privacy, Deep Throat (my moniker for her) has done incredible research into DeAngelo that goes beyond what you've read i...

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June 12, 2020 | The Crush of Feels, Pretrial from 2020-06-12T14:48:16

The last few weeks have been incredibly hard. This pod is pretty raw as I struggle to share my feelings.

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June 4, 2020 | The Visalia Ransacker Interview with Margie Smith (Part 2) from 2020-06-04T15:52:51

THIS IS PART TWO - MAKE SURE YOU LISTEN TO PART ONE FIRST!

Margie talks about what DeAngelo did when he broke into homes and then she taps some of his classic behaviors: anniversaries, ri...

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June 4, 2020 | The Visalia Ransacker Interview with Margie Smith (Part 1) from 2020-06-04T15:50:08

Before he terrorized Sacramento, Joseph DeAngelo, the amazingly evil Golden State Killer, managed to terrorize Visalia. He murdered Claude Snelling and broke into more than 100 homes. There's mo...

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May 9, 2020 | Interview with Todd Lindsey, Producer, Unmasking a Killer from 2020-05-09T15:48

From the minute I met Todd, in 2017 for the taping of Unmasking a Killer, I was impressed. I've seen him many times since and I'll always have a soft spot for him because of how he managed a ser...

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May 7, 2020 | In the News | Epilogue - What Happens Next from 2020-05-07T13:32

So we find out how the church moved forward, how Alsip moved forward, how Hanawalt moved forward and meanwhile, the Smith case starts its journey into the void of cold case land.

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May 6, 2020 | In the News | The Judge Rules There is Enough Evidence to Bind Alsip Over to Trial from 2020-05-06T14:32

Since you don't need evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to be bound over for trial, the judge does the only thing he can. He tells Alsip he must stand trial. But then, in an amazing series of ev...

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May 5, 2020 | Now | The HBO Teaser Has Dropped; My Thoughts from 2020-05-05T12:32:27

I didn’t realize HBO was going to drop the teaser on Sunday and it did catch me a bit off-guard. I always do my best to share real-time feelings about these things, so let’s do that. I’m wrote a...

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May 3, 2020 | In the News | The Defense Goes Hard to Discredit the Church from 2020-05-03T13:35

Defense attorney Richard Hanawalt pulls out all the stops to discredit the pastor's testimony and prove reasonable doubt for the judge. 

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Apr 26, 2020 | In the News | The Prosecution Rests in 1982 from 2020-04-26T14:03:18

The twists and turns of my father and stepmother's lives, along with the cast of supporting characters you couldn't make-up, turns Alsip's preliminary hearing into a crazy, convoluted mess. But ...

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Apr 25, 2020 | In the News | Working our Way Toward the Preliminary Hearing in 1982 from 2020-04-25T19:34:56

We know Joe Alsip didn't do it, and yet, he's sitting in jail, month after month, based on evidence, procedures, hypnosis and more and time just keeps slipping away. As does the money. What a ho...

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Apr 16, 2020 | In the News | In Which We First Learn of the Rev Donald Mikel from 2020-04-16T17:39

Lots of foreshadowing in this episode as we learn of the esteemed pastor and his role in the case. We also learn more about my dad's amazingly convoluted business dealings - I have no idea how t...

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Apr 14, 2020 | In the News | Former Partner Held in Smith Slayings from 2020-04-14T20:46:45

From the Star Free Press in Ventura, starting Nov 20, 1981, we find out Joe Alsip is charged and we spend a lot of time understanding his struggle to afford a defense attorney. In sharp contrast...

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Apr 9, 2020 | Interview | Meet Survivor Kris Pedretti, Victim #10 from 2020-04-09T17:18:12

On Saturday, December 18, 1976, 15-year old Kris Pedretti was raped repeatedly by the East Area Rapist (who later became known as the Golden State Killer). Today she tells her story and how, by ...

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Apr 4, 2020 | Interview | Stacey Scott Paranormal Investigator&GSK from 2020-04-04T19:22:30

I loved this interview so much. I did it on video for the Life Coach Pod (it's on YouTube) if you want to see Stacey in person. At the end of the interview, she talked about the Golden State Kil...

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Apr 2, 2020 | Interview | A Closer Look at Charlene Smith with Caryl Billings from 2020-04-02T19:43:16

Caryl and Charlene grew up together - like sisters as she describes it - and she's one of the only people I know who understood how Charlene ticked. I have loved getting to know Caryl and I am b...

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Mar 29, 2020 | In the News | Smith's Murder - Police Closing In Part 2 from 2020-03-29T21:22:15

From the Star Free Press in October, 1980 continued! We start to learn much more about the crimes, the evidence and the suspects. Greg Zoroya and Rita Beamish dive into the details about the inv...

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Mar 28, 2020 | In the News | Smith's Murder - Police Closing In Part 1 from 2020-03-28T19:05:20

From the Star Free Press in October, 1980, we start to learn much more about the crimes, the evidence and the suspects. Greg Zoroya and Rita Beamish dive into the details about the investigation...

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Mar 25, 2020 | In the News | Two Lawsuits, Two Mysteries from 2020-03-25T20:19:33

This pod is a little different because I could use your help. There were two lawsuits filed in Ventura in late 1980 and early 1981. One was by us, dad's kids, for wrongful death. The other was a...

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March 23, 2020 | Bonus | Audio Version of My Live Talk (version with slides on Lawyers Daughter YouTube) from 2020-03-23T21:04:55

Here's the audio version of my live talk - the audio/visual version is here on YouTube: https://youtu.be/yyFcM8h85d4. The video has slides of photos yo...

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Mar 17, 2020 | In the News | March 19, 1980 to May 18, 1980 from 2020-03-17T20:25:59

These articles from my Murder Book explain how the case isn't going anywhere and law enforcement is basically stumped. You might want to listen to the other In the News pod first so you have the...

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Mar 16, 2020 | Now | What Incarceration Might Look Like for DeAngelo from 2020-03-16T19:53:19

The DNA has been obtained and now we have a chance to talk about what incarceration might look like for DeAngelo - if he ends up on Death Row or if he does manage to provide a plea that satisfie...

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Mar 13, 2020 | Now | Court Date March 12, 2020 - More DNA Swabs and Lawyers from 2020-03-13T17:19:13

It was a busy day yesterday. Started with a meeting with the defense. This happened because the defense sent a letter to those of use with charges earlier this year. I met with them in the morni...

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Mar 11, 2020 | Now | Defense Response to Taking Additional DNA Swabs (for Tomorrow's Hearing) from 2020-03-11T15:09:07

On March 7th, I went through the prosecution's request for additional DNA. You might want to listen to that first, before you listen to this one. Today, I go through the defense response to the ...

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Mar 10, 2020 | Then | 1968 Learning to Ride a Bike from 2020-03-10T12:00:01

The news is going to get real again as we head into the hearing on Thursday, so I thought today we'd take a little break and go back to 1968 - the year I got a bike and what happened when my dad...

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Mar 8, 2020 | Now | Marsy's Law - California's Victim's Bill of Rights from 2020-03-08T18:16:04

With many of us feeling like we aren't getting all the information we need, I take a look at Marsy's Law, California edition, and what this means for anyone who is a victim of crime. Along the w...

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Mar 7, 2020 | Now | Motion to Collect Five Buccal Swabs of DeAngelo's DNA from 2020-03-07T12:30:34

This motion is what will be argued on Thursday. I discovered, in the motion, information I didn't know before. I think you'll find it satisfying. The prosecution does a wonderful job of stating ...

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Mar 6, 2020 | Now | Not All Victims Are Treated Equally from 2020-03-06T21:03:43

It turns out there are different kinds of victims in this messy, ginormous case and depending on the crime or where you live, you'll have a different experience from other victims. This episode ...

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Mar 5, 2020 | Now | DeAngelo Wants to Plea from 2020-03-05T16:20:01

I’m back! This is a reboot of my podcast about the Golden State Killer. There's so much stuff happening in public and behind the scenes, this is the best way to keep up! Today I talk about DeAng...

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Legacy Podcast | Aug 23, 2018 Court Date from 2018-09-12T16:23

On August 23, 2018, we attended court to hear 26 more charges be brought against Joseph DeAngelo, the accused Golden State Killer and East Area Rapist. It was intense, sad and different. I also ...

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Legacy Podcast | My Visit With a Medium from 2018-09-09T20:37

This bonus track is podcast only (I didn't write about it on my blog). My friend took me to a Medium and guess who showed up!?

Apparently I was on speed when I recorded this - I talk fast...

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Legacy Podcast | In the News on March 17, 1980 from 2018-07-29T14:41

Ripped from the headlines: I read and comment about actual news coverage in Ventura in March 1980, when my dad and stepmom were found and the early days of the investigation. Based on two articl...

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Legacy Podcast | Seeing DeAngelo For The First Time from 2018-07-29T12:41

It was time to see DeAngelo, the man who killed my dad and stepmom, for the first time. Here's what happened.

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Legacy Podcast | Preparing To See DeAngelo For The First Time from 2018-07-28T17:59

I came to Sacramento for the weekend before I'd see Joseph DeAngelo, the accused Golden State Killer, for the first time. Here's what I did with my time - before the nerves kicked in on Sunday n...

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Legacy Podcast | The Arrest from 2018-07-23T20:24

I never ever thought my dad and stepmom's killer would be caught. I mean I just didn't. I had decided in my head he was dead. And then, April 2018, an arrest was made! The Golden State Killer, E...

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Legacy Podcast | The Murders from 2018-07-20T18:32

In March 1980, my dad and stepmother (Lyman and Charlene Smith) were found murdered in their home in Ventura, California. It took decades to find out who killed them and why. This is what happen...

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