#164: a live coach vs. an AI one, Jim Cummins of Dirty Kanza - a podcast by Red Kite Prayer

This week Selene takes on coaching and the difference in interacting with an actual human coach vs. an AI one like with VeloPro, which Patrick just reviewed this week. It turns out, Selene does better with a real human. Patrick finally caught up with Dirty Kanza's Chief Gravel Officer, Jim Cummins to talk about his experience at the race and the way the event is evolving. 

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