NFL gambling expert Chad Millman, head of media for The Action Network, and Bart Starr Jr., the son of the legendary Packers quarterback - a podcast by Peter King, NBC Sports

Millman on the future of gambling and its effect on the NFL, on how easy it is to place a bet on an NFL game even in the vast majority of states where sports gambling is not legal, and on how much money the NFL and TV networks can hope to make when gambling is legalized throughout the country.

Starr with an update on the health of his father after his major stroke in 2014, on what it was like grow up as a child in 1960s Green Bay (and walking across a wide field from the family home to Lambeau Field before Green Bay had been developed), and on the close relationship between Bart Starr and Aaron Rodgers, despite the 50-year age difference.

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