Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints&Hue Jackson, Cleveland Browns - a podcast by Peter King, NBC Sports

New Orleans coach Sean Payton on the meaning of the Saints to New Orleans--a decade ago, and now, on trying to break the schneid of going 7-9 three straight years, and on why he decided to break his long silence with me after he disagreed with my coverage of the Saints' Bountygate scandal.

Cleveland coach Hue Jackson on how his job is different from the other 31 head coaches in the league, on what he likes about rookie quarterback Deshone Kizer, and how he works within the structure of a unique system that includes former baseball executive Paul DePodesta.

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