Immigration activist Joshua Rubin on holding onto love when hope feels lost | Texas is SWINGING, baby | Protecting DACA | #bluesquadgoals - a podcast by Rouser

For our last episode before the LIVE FINALE (!!!) we sat down with immigration activist Joshua Rubin to talk about what makes someone decide that they need to be on the front lines of an issue, no matter the cost. Josh, founder of Witness: Tornillo and a major reason why they closed those camps, believes that love is what kept his fire burning even after his hope was gone. We also learned about swing states (ahem, TEXAS) from Swing Left, and got revved up to make another push to protect DACA.

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