Optimism is Undefeated - a podcast by Blue Wire

Peter and Gates warm up the feed for the return of champ, Jordan Zirm. The boys talk about the race between the Browns being good and the world ending, how tempered expectations could make this a successful season, and how long you have to "know" someone to sit with them at the Browns home-opener next week.Plus Gates reads a one-star review that genuinely hurt his feelings. Go Browns!

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