"Boring and Painful" - a podcast by The Athletic

The Athletic's James Pearce and Simon Hughes join host Steve Hothersall to react to another Anfield defeat.
After Sunday's loss at Fulham we take a close look at the performance of Jurgen Klopp. Should we now be asking questions about his management after some strange selections and poor substitutions? And, more worryingly, is he starting to look defeated? Are Liverpool now out of the race for the top four? And if so, would it be better to miss out on European football altogether.
But on a more positive note, we salute Steven Gerrard's success as manager of Rangers.

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