Are there votes in defence? - a podcast by The Times

Matt Chorley is joined this week by Times columnist Hugo Rifkind, Times Defence Editor Deborah Haynes and the paper's Deputy Political Editor Sam Coates. The panel discuss Paul Nuttall and the state of Ukip; why both Parliament and the public should care more about defence spending; and problems facing Theresa May. Find out more at www.thetimes.co.uk/redboxemail

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