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The Reflex Blue Show : A Graphic Design Podcast

Focusing on design, and the hosts' love of pop culture, The Reflex Blue Show gives you a look into the topics of graphic design by two people working in the industry. The Reflex Blue Show with Donovan Beery is hosted by 36Point.com

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The Reflex Blue Show : A Graphic Design Podcast
HOW Design Live 2017, Conference Recap 1 of 4 : Justin Ahrens, Mike Joosse, Sabine Lenz, Mike Miller, Christine Taylor from 2023-12-14T08:59:59.121922

Justin Ahrens (Rule29 and Wheels4Water), Mike Joosse (Designation Labs), Sabine Lenz (PaperSpecs), Mike Miller, and Christine Taylor (Hallmark and POPMinded) discuss the first day of 2017’...

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HOW Design Live 2017, Conference Recap 2 of 4 : Wills Francis, Dallas Franklin, Adam Halon, Dan Smolinski, Lloyd Wilkinson from 2023-12-14T08:59:59.116129

Wills Francis (Rule29 and Wheels4Water), Dallas Franklin (Neenah Paper), Adam Halon, Dan Smolinski (LinkedIn), and Lloyd Wilkinson (Real Thread) discuss the second day of 2017’s HOW Design...

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Bill Gardner: The Reflex Blue Show #173 from 2023-12-14T08:59:59.097567

LogoLounge and the LogoLounge books may have only been around since 2001, but they have left such a large mark on the industry, they feel like they’ve been with us forever. At this year...

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Jason Tselentis: The Reflex Blue Show #174 from 2023-12-14T08:59:59.091572

Jason Tselentis chats about all of the important topics with me – artificial intelligence (and how it may affect design), James Cameron, Papyrus, and student portfolios. Recorded at this year...

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Brian Wood: The Reflex Blue Show #175 from 2023-12-14T08:59:59.086211

Brian Wood was at the HOW Design Live Conference conference this year talking about (and doing demonstrations in the Adobe booth of) Adobe Stock and Adobe Experience Design (XD, now in beta). We...

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Mary Allen: The Reflex Blue Show #178 from 2023-12-14T08:59:59.063291

Mary Allen kicks off the start of season 11 on The Reflex Blue Show. We chat about going back to school for design, what may be new in 2018, and the sad news of PRINT and HOW no longer being pri...

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Luke Bolin& Coban Rudish& Dillon Wheelock: The Reflex Blue Show #180 from 2023-12-14T08:59:59.052664

Luke Bolin, Coban Rudish, and Dillion Wheelock of Edison Creative have been doing animation for a while – but nothing like The Axiom Chronicles. After years of telling stories for others (which ...

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Bre Phelan: The Reflex Blue Show #182 from 2023-12-14T08:59:59.043674

Bre Phelan is starting up a cat cafe in Omaha! In just a few months, Felius opens in downtown Omaha, and we talk about opening a cat cafe, starting up a non-profit, and of course her current day...

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Amanda Hoklin& Megan Timanus: The Reflex Blue Show #183 from 2023-12-14T08:59:59.038346

Amanda Hoklin and Megan Timanus stop by to speak about design portfolios. Megan is an instructor at University of Nebraska Omaha, while Amanda has been teaching the portfolio class at Metropolit...

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Emily Cohen: The Reflex Blue Show #198 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.974615

Emily Cohen returns to the show to discuss her book Brutally Honest (she was last on the show a year ago, before the book shipped, and after an amazing Kickstarter promotion). The book has reall...

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Greg Paprocki: The Reflex Blue Show #201 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.962920

Illustrator Greg Paprocki joins The Reflex Blue Show to discuss how he got into illustration, working on Curious George, his ABC books (starting with V is for Vittles), and so many more books. W...

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Jen Landis: The Reflex Blue Show #204 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.949836

Jen Landis (VP and Executive Creative Director at KidGlov; and Founder of Pincurl Girls) met with me after her breakout session at the OnBrand Conference in Omaha – a collaboration of the local ...

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Jill Rizzo& Brian Wetjen: The Reflex Blue Show #207 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.936443

Omaha designer Jill Rizzo, and website developer Brian Wetjen, were looking for studio space when they stumbled upon a gallery instead. We talk about their new Split Gallery, hosting events (inc...

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Justin Dauer: The Reflex Blue Show #210 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.923611

Justin Dauer – who I last spoke to and interviewed in 2017 while promoting his book“Cultivating a Creative Culture”, returns to discuss the book’s 2nd Edition:“Creative C...

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Brooke Robinson: The Reflex Blue Show #212 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.914464

Brooke Robinson stops by The Reflex Blue Show (well, remotely, via Austin, Texas) to talk about her journey from graphic designer, to fine artist, to bicycling the West coast, to founding Goodty...

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Ken Barber: The Reflex Blue Show #216 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.899603

Ken Barber, of House Industries, joins The Reflex Blue Show to talk about his journey into lettering. We also talk about what it’s like working with JJ Abrams and Jimmy Kimmel. Oh yeah, an...

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Prescott Perez-Fox: The Reflex Blue Show #218 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.890168

I feel like I’ve known Prescott Perez-Fox for close to 20 years, but I think it’s all been online with the exception of a lunch we had like a decade ago at a conference. Even this po...

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Christina Falzano: The Reflex Blue Show #219 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.884652

Christina Falzano, Managing Director of Conran Design Group stops by The Reflex Blue Show to talk about getting into branding, changes over the years in phone bills, howpeople interact with bran...

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Susan Augenbraun and Paul Mendoza: The Reflex Blue Show #220 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.878978

Susan Augenbraun (Events Manager at the national office of AIGA) and Paul Mendoza (who leads a digital design team at UCLA) stop by to talk about the 2nd (does this make it annual?) AIGA Portfol...

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Michael Arndt: The Reflex Blue Show #224 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.862273

Great design books are still being made, it just feels like you have to look a bit harder to find them. Snails& Monkey Tails : A Visual Guide to Punctuation& Symbols, by Michael Arndt is...

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Justin Kemerling: The Reflex Blue Show #227 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.848570

Justin Kemerling stops by The Reflex Blue Show to talk about his new book, In the Middle of Everything. Written 10 years after opening Justin Kemerling Design Co., the book does a great job of c...

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HOW Design Live 2022, Conference Recap 3 of 3 : Justin Ahrens, Jeff Bloom, Michele Pistone, Kelly Wang from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.835543

Justin Ahrens, Jeff Bloom, Michele Pistone, and Kelly Wang discuss the last day of 2022’s HOW Design Live in Boston. What a great event, and one that feels way too short. That being said, ...

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Stefan Mumaw and Nate Voss: The Reflex Blue Show #231 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.820714

So much happened during HOW Design Live in Boston this year, that I barely left the convention center at all. On the middle day though, I did make my way the three blocks to Johnny Cupcakes, and...

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Zipeng Zhu: The Reflex Blue Show #232 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.814316

Zipeng Zhu stopped by to chat during the HOW Design Live in Boston this year. He was spending the previous days changing a lot of the talk he would give, still called“Rainbow”, which...

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Keni Thacker: The Reflex Blue Show #235 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.802028

Keni Thacker was in Omaha to kick off the On Brand Conference just blocks from my office a couple of weeks ago. First off, big thanks goes out to AAF Nebraska, AIGA Nebraska, AMA Omaha, and PRSA...

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Jen Landis: The Reflex Blue Show #237 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.792438

We last spoke with Jen Landis back in 2019, at the OnBrand Conference, where she was speaking, along with other things, about her Pin Curl Girls. Since then, she has continued to promote creativ...

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Desmond LaVelle& Jennifer Martindale: The Reflex Blue Show #240 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.781731

Desmond LaVelle and Jennifer Martindale were the keynote speaker of AAF Nebraska‘s Meet the pros this year. Well, unlike most years where each keynote speaks over one of the two lunches, t...

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Bill Gardner: The Reflex Blue Show #242 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.763395

Bill Gardner once again gave his Logo Trend Report live at HOW Design Live in Nashville (his 21st! logo trend report). The energy he brings on stage is unmatched. Because of my recording schedul...

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Shayna Kulik: The Reflex Blue Show #245 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.750053

Shayna Kulik was at the HOW Design Live conference in Nashville this year to talk about how art and culture affect pattern and color. Just a look around any room immediately makes me realize how...

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Justin Dauer: The Reflex Blue Show #249 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.735587

Justin Dauer, who is no stranger to The Reflex Blue Show, and author of Cultivating a Creative Culture and it’s second edition, Creative Culture: Human-Centered Interaction, Design,& I...

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Ross Asdourian: The Reflex Blue Show #251 from 2023-12-14T08:59:58.725038

Ross Asdourian was the closing keynote speaker at this year’s OnBrand Conference in Omaha, Nebraska. Recorded from the event on July 13, right next to where the taco bar was now being take...

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Katie Risch McAdams: The Reflex Blue Show #252 from 2023-10-10T14:00:24

Katie Risch McAdams, the Chief Marketing Officer at Basis Technologies, was the lunchtime keynote speaker at this year’s OnBrand Conference in Omaha, Nebraska. Recorded from the event on J...

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Whitney Warne: The Reflex Blue Show #250 from 2023-09-25T14:21:34

Whitney Warne was the opening keynote of this year’s OnBrand Conference in Omaha, Nebraska. Recorded from the event on July 13, right next to where the taco bar was being set-up, Whitney a...

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Jada Britto: The Reflex Blue Show #248 from 2023-08-24T15:01:07

As the last of this year’s HOW Design Live podcast interviews, Jada Britto joins me to discuss her talk on,‘Reigniting Hope: Breaking Out of the Checkbox Mentality.’ I had met ...

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Emily Mills: The Reflex Blue Show #247 from 2023-08-17T19:54:11

Emily Mills was at the HOW Design Live conference in Nashville to talk about transition as a creative professional. And as the founder of Sketch Academy, she was also spending quite a bit of tim...

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Carl Gerhards: The Reflex Blue Show #246 from 2023-08-11T15:23:43

Carl Gerhards was at the HOW Design Live conference in Nashville to talk about the rebrand, I mean,‘the next generation of the Pepsi logo‘. It’s rare to have such a large compa...

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Ben Greengrass& Jessie McGuire: The Reflex Blue Show #244 from 2023-07-19T19:39:25

Ben Greengrass and Jessie McGuire of ThoughtMatter seemed to be everywhere at this year’s HOW Design Live conference in Nashville. They gave a talk titled,“Creative Bravery: The Impo...

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Alice Waterman& Rebecca Williams: The Reflex Blue Show #243 from 2023-07-14T00:20:56

One of the Highlights of last years’ (2022) HOW Design Live event in Boston, for me anyway, was the chance to sit in the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile, and to speak with one of the Hotdoggers. ...

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Jenn Lederer: The Reflex Blue Show #241 from 2023-06-29T15:16:48

Jenn Lederer (Comedian/Keynote Speaker), was at HOW Design Live in Nashville giving a talk/workshop titled“Perfect Pitch – HOW To Talk About What You Do”. We talk about her path into...

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HOW Design Live 2023, Conference Recap 3 of 3 : Steve Gibbs, Shayna Kulik, Karen Larson, Jamie Saunders, Keith Smith from 2023-06-16T15:00

Steve Gibbs, Shayna Kulik, Karen Larson, Jamie Saunders, and Keith Smith discuss the final day of 2023’s HOW Design Live in Nashville, Tennessee. There is always that weird time about a we...

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HOW Design Live 2023, Conference Recap 2 of 3 : Bill Gardner, Stephen Gates, Emily Mills, Jessica Neblett, Jenny Reed, Stefan Sagmeister from 2023-06-15T14:39:17

Bill Gardner, Stephen Gates, Emily Mills, Jessica Neblett, Jenny Reed, and Stefan Sagmeister discuss the second day of 2023’s HOW Design Live in Nashville, Tennessee. I last spoke to Stefa...

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HOW Design Live 2023, Conference Recap 1 of 3 : Justin Ahrens, David C. Baker, Michael Bierut, Bill Gardner, Darcy Hinrichs, Gary Kopervas, Emily Mills, Stefan Mumaw, Calvin Ng from 2023-06-14T18:58:35

Justin Ahrens, David C. Baker, Michael Bierut, Bill Gardner, Darcy Hinrichs, Gary Kopervas, Emily Mills, Stefan Mumaw, and Calvin Ng discuss the first day of 2023’s HOW Design Live in Nash...

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Petre Spassov: The Reflex Blue Show #239 from 2023-02-24T22:40:34

I first met Petre Spassov at the 2011 AIGA Conference in Phoenix, and since then have been fortunate enough to receive a few of his promotional pieces for PS Design. As he has created some of th...

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Christopher Cox: The Reflex Blue Show #238 from 2023-02-17T14:55:58

Christopher Cox stopped by (well, virtually anyway) The Reflex Blue Show to talk about the weather and snow accumulation in Fort Collins and Omaha (this makes us officially old?). We then speak ...

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George Garrastegui, Jr.: The Reflex Blue Show #236 from 2022-08-24T20:07:19

George Garrastegui, Jr. was in Omaha to drop the mic at the end of the 2022 On Brand Conference. Once again, big thanks goes out to AAF Nebraska, AIGA Nebraska, AMA Omaha, and PRSA Nebraska for ...

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Danielle Hughes: The Reflex Blue Show #234 from 2022-07-22T13:16:58

My final podcast from HOW Design Live in Boston this year was with Danielle Hughes. She discusses her talk on“Personality Brand” (instead of what people usually use, which is their p...

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Fonz Morris: The Reflex Blue Show #233 from 2022-07-15T14:36:58

Fonz Morris, a‘deadass SMART effing product designer,’ stopped by to chat during the HOW Design Live in Boston this year. We talk about his journey to becoming a Lead Product Designe...

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Robyn Kanner: The Reflex Blue Show #230 from 2022-06-24T18:24:01

Robyn Kanner met with me at HOW Design Live in Boston to talk about her talk on the last‘6 Novembers’. We also talk about her love of New Wave film, her work as the Senior Creative A...

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Gary Kopervas: The Reflex Blue Show #229 from 2022-06-17T19:10:13

Gary Kopervas (Syndicated Cartoonist, and SVP Creative Strategy at Finch Brands), met with me at HOW Design Live in Boston. We discuss his‘Doodle or Die’ workshop focusing on getting...

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Rania Svoronou: The Reflex Blue Show #228 from 2022-06-10T15:53:10

Rania Svoronou (Executive Design Director at IBM), was at HOW Design Live in Boston, and sat down to talk about how to be a resilient leader. We also discuss why and how designers are, by nature...

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HOW Design Live 2022, Conference Recap 2 of 3 : Justin Ahrens, Ti Chang, Stephen Gates, Jamie Saunders, Ahbleza Sellars, Nicole Slaw from 2022-05-31T23:51:13

Justin Ahrens, Ti Chang, Stephen Gates, Jamie Saunders, Ahbleza Sellars, and Nicole Slaw discuss the second day of 2022’s HOW Design Live in Boston. Every conference has many things you re...

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HOW Design Live 2022, Conference Recap 1 of 3 : Bill Gardner, Andrew Gibbs, Patty Lennon, Michael Roderick, Terri Trespicio from 2022-05-30T19:03:42

Bill Gardner, Andrew Gibbs, Patty Lennon, Michael Roderick, and Terri Trespicio discuss the first day of 2022’s HOW Design Live in Boston. It was great to be back among so many creatives a...

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Karen Torok: The Reflex Blue Show #226 from 2022-04-14T19:59:22

Karen Torok gave the closing day keynote at AAF Nebraska’s Meet the Pros—a student event that I wish all markets had something similar to. AAF Nebraska does an amazing job on this event (d...

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Nikki Villagomez: The Reflex Blue Show #225 from 2022-03-18T15:43:02

Nikki Villagomez stopped through Omaha, Nebraska to give the opening day keynote at AAF Nebraska’s Meet the Pros—a fantastic student event that’s been going on for quite a while (lik...

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Amanda Walla: The Reflex Blue Show #223 from 2022-01-29T17:22:35

Omaha designer and illustrator Amanda Walla stopped by The Reflex Blue Show to talk about what got her into lettering, and the 100 day challenge she did. Well, we do talk about this at first, bu...

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Tim Lapetino: The Reflex Blue Show #222 from 2021-08-30T18:03:16

Tim Lapetino, stops by The Reflex Blue Show to discuss his upcoming book, Pac-Man: Birth of an Icon. And also, what a huge cultural phenomenon Pac-Man was / is. We also discuss how his interest ...

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Archie Boston: The Reflex Blue Show #221 from 2021-08-16T03:14:05

Archie Boston stopped by The Reflex Blue Show to discuss what it was that brought him into a career in Graphic Design and Advertising in the 1960s. We also discuss his book, Fly In The Buttermil...

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Michael Schwab: The Reflex Blue Show #217 from 2021-03-14T15:08:38

Michael Schwab! This week we welcome illustrator/designer / artist Michael Schwab to The Reflex Blue Show to talk about his process, the tools he uses, his influences, and more. Ben Lueders, who...

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Valerie Aurilio: The Reflex Blue Show #215 from 2021-02-28T14:27:11

Valerie Aurilio, General Manager of Landor& Fitch, has been working on a project with a soon-to-be 250 year history – America. We discuss working with the America 250 Foundation to brand the...

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Owen Davey: The Reflex Blue Show #214 from 2021-02-21T16:14:09

Owen Davey visits The Reflex Blue Show (remotely, via the UK) and we discuss starting a career as an illustrator, the changes in the field over the years, and doing illustrations for social medi...

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Lauren Hom: The Reflex Blue Show #213 from 2021-02-14T17:49

Lauren Hom visits The Reflex Blue Show (remotely, via Detroit, Michigan) to discuss how she got into lettering. This has led to murals, starting her own online classes, and working for some rath...

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Nate Voss: The Reflex Blue Show #211 from 2020-12-14T18:39:35

Nate Voss! Just over 15(?!) years ago, Nate watched Steve Jobs talk about bringing podcasts into iTunes and immediately went to thoughts that he should be podcasting about design and invited Tom...

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Fredrik Öst: The Reflex Blue Show #209 from 2020-11-29T19:49:14

Fredrik Öst – of Snask, visits the show (remotely from Sweden) to talk about starting a record label for VÄG, starting up a studio with basically zero experience, playing Badminton against a chi...

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Ashleigh Axios: The Reflex Blue Show #208 from 2020-03-28T18:19:16

Ashleigh Axios – of&Partners, incoming President of AIGA, and former Creative Director of the Obama White House – stopped by my office the first week of March, 2020 to record an episode of T...

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John Gawley: The Reflex Blue Show #206 from 2020-02-16T20:25:39

John Gawley, the current President of AIGA Nebraska, talks about something that we don’t get a lot of here in Nebraska – being a full-time designer for a professional sports organization. ...

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Geoff Silverstein: The Reflex Blue Show #205 from 2020-01-27T00:26:01

Geoff Silverstein of Friendly Design Co. stopped by the studio to kick off season 13 of The Reflex Blue Show. We speak about how the logical location for any businesses second location is in Oma...

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Stefan Mumaw: The Reflex Blue Show #203 from 2019-08-13T14:41:28

Stefan Mumaw is always good with a story. He’s also an amazing presenter – so it’s no shock that he was brought in to do the luncheon keynote at the OnBrand Conference in Omaha – a c...

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Daryl Anderson: The Reflex Blue Show #202 from 2019-07-31T20:51:29

Daryl Anderson, Creative Director at Clark Creative Group, sits down to talk about working with local clients, Visit Omaha, and his own path into the design field. We end the show on some studen...

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Mary Allen: The Reflex Blue Show #200 from 2019-04-13T22:58:13

Mary Allen returns to The Reflex Blue Show to talk about mental health awareness, and her greeting cards for those who want a way to explain their mental health issue. We also speak about living...

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Andrea Trew: The Reflex Blue Show #199 from 2019-03-25T18:05:45

Andrea Trew stops by The Reflex Blue Show to talk about her new company, Trew Creative. Andrea spent the past three years as the sole designer at Flywheel (36 Point has been hosted at Flywheel s...

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Dani Donovan: The Reflex Blue Show #197 from 2019-02-25T00:38

Omaha-based designer Dani Donovan stopped by the Eleven19 office to discuss a design project that went huge – and fast. In mid-December (of 2018), just two short months before we recorded this p...

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Grain& Mortar: The Reflex Blue Show #196 from 2018-11-19T22:00:11

Grain& Mortar has been an award-winning branding and web development studio in Omaha, Nebraska since 2011, but 2018 brought them into the business of selling pants as well. Kristin DeKay, Er...

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John Sayles: The Reflex Blue Show #195 from 2018-10-10T18:44:37

John Sayles (of J. Sayles Design in Des Moines, Iowa) stopped by the Eleven19 studio to talk about being in the design industry for over three decades. But first things first – pork chops and vo...

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Steve Gordon& Paul Meyer: The Reflex Blue Show #194 from 2018-09-28T21:26:55

Steve Gordon and Paul Meyer stop by The Reflex Blue Show to talk about the current things going on in the design world. We recorded this a day or two after Apple’s announcements of a new p...

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Elizabeth Edwards: The Reflex Blue Show #193 from 2018-09-17T15:56:51

Elizabeth Edwards (Volume PR and 11th Octave) joins The Reflex Blue Show to talk PR and psychology. Once again, recorded in the hallway (and still very obviously between sessions at the event) a...

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Nicole Frantz: The Reflex Blue Show #192 from 2018-08-27T15:36:16

Nicole Frantz (Senior Vice President, Creative Services at Capital Music Group) joins The Reflex Blue Show to talk about working in the music business. We talk about working in a super-creative ...

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John Henry Müller: The Reflex Blue Show #191 from 2018-08-20T22:01:11

John Henry Müller (Design Director at Hudl) returns to the show after last having his work go to the dogs over five years ago. We meet up in the hallway (I love recording at conferences (the ene...

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Dan Rhatigan: The Reflex Blue Show #190 from 2018-07-23T17:28:28

Dan Rhatigan (Senior Manager of Adobe‘s type team) was at the HOW Design Live design conference in Boston to talk about what’s next in the type world. Software does have a lifespan, ...

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Grace Dawson& Tosh Hall: The Reflex Blue Show #189 from 2018-07-10T00:37:34

Grace Dawson and Tosh Hall of Jones Knowles Ritchie (JKR / JKR Global / some random law firm) were at the HOW Design Live design conference in Boston to give a presentation about how we haven...

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Josh Silverman: The Reflex Blue Show #188 from 2018-06-26T15:52:06

Josh Silverman was at the HOW Design Live design conference in Boston to give a presentation about working at the layer of people. So, we talk about The People Layer and why it’s so import...

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Allan Espiritu& Kevin Kernan: The Reflex Blue Show #187 from 2018-06-11T18:28

Allan Espiritu and Kevin Kernan of GDLOFT were at the HOW Design Live design conference in Boston to celebrate winning the Print Magazine Regional Design Award, Grand Prize with their poster des...

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Emily Cohen: The Reflex BlueShow #186 from 2018-05-30T01:09:26

Emily Chohen was at the HOW Design Live design conference in Boston to speak about“The Power of Saying No.” I said yes to a podcast though, and we speak a lot about no. Well, the pow...

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Bill Gardner: The Reflex Blue Show #185 from 2018-05-21T14:12:19

Bill Gardner was presenting the 2018 Logo Trend Report (not quite online yet, but it will be soon) at the HOW Design Live design conference in Boston. We ended up taking a bit of time to discuss...

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HOW Design Live 2018, Conference Recap 3 of 3 : Julie Goldsberry, Cami Travis-Groves from 2018-05-17T14:48:38

Julie Goldsberry and Cami Travis-Groves discuss the third day of 2018’s HOW Design Live in Boston. Between this recap, and the Day 1 / Day 2 recaps, I was happy to get 5 of this year’...

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HOW Design Live 2018, Conference Recap 2 of 3 : Dallas Franklin, Jennifer Lemerand, Thanh Nguyen, Alex Withers from 2018-05-15T14:44:43

Dallas Franklin, Jennifer Lemerand, Thanh Nguyen, and Alex Withers discuss the second day of 2018’s HOW Design Live in Boston. Listen to Day 1’s recap here. Wait around until tomorro...

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HOW Design Live 2018, Conference Recap 1 of 3 : Justin Ahrens, Saana Hellsten, Karen Larson, Lillian Ling, Nicholas Nawroth, Calvin Ng, Jamie Saunders, David Sherwin from 2018-05-14T15:16:24

Justin Ahrens, Saana Hellsten, Karen Larson, Lillian Ling, Nicholas Nawroth, Calvin Ng, Jamie Saunders, and David Sherwin  discuss the first day of 2018’s HOW Design Live in Boston. Boston...

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Stefan G. Bucher: The Reflex Blue Show #184 from 2018-04-16T16:43:20

Stefan G. Bucher of 344 stopped by the day after a fantastic presentation to AIGA Nebraska in support of his new book, Letterheads : An Eccentric Alphabet. A lot has happened since we last had S...

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Robin Fitzgerald: The Reflex Blue Show #181 from 2018-02-18T23:52:34

Robin Fitzgerald, CCO at BBDO Atlanta, was back in Nebraska to speak at AAF Omaha’s Meet the Pros. I stopped by a couple hours before her presentation, and we discussed both of us actually...

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Ben Lueders& Erin Pille: The Reflex Blue Show #179 from 2018-01-21T20:57:38

Ben Lueders and Erin Pille of Fruitful Design stopped by to discuss something or another about design – but my attendance at an SEGD Omaha event ended with a free MTN Dew ICE – and thus plans ha...

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2017 AIGA Design Conference, Recap 3 of 3 : Michael Bierut, David Carson, Keith Ellis, Carlos Estrada, Keith Gasch, Ben Levitz, Joe Isaak from 2017-10-25T13:34:21

Michael Bierut, David Carson, Keith Ellis, Carlos Estrada, Keith Gasch, Ben Levitz, and Joe Isaak discuss the final day of the 2017 AIGA Design Conference in Minneapolis with me. Enjoy. The Refl...

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2017 AIGA Design Conference, Recap 2 of 3 : Julie Anixter, Marian Bantjes, Bob Dixon, Adam Turman, Betsy Vardell from 2017-10-24T13:13:57

Julie Anixter (AIGA), Marian Bantjes, Bob Dixon (USPS), Adam Turman, and Betsy Vardell (Design Observer) discuss the second day of the 2017 AIGA Design Conference in Minneapolis with me. Enjoy. ...

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2017 AIGA Design Conference, Recap 1 of 3 : Justin Ahrens, Aaron Draplin, Dallas Franklin, Bill Moran, Brian Singer, Christine Taylor from 2017-10-23T12:47:58

Justin Ahrens (Rule29 and Wheels4Water), Aaron Draplin (The DDC), Dallas Franklin (Neenah), Bill Moran (Hamilton Wood Type& Printing Museum), Brian Singer (Someguy), and Christine Taylor (Ha...

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Dana Arnett: The Reflex Blue Show #177 from 2017-08-14T00:07:05

Dana Arnett of VSA Partners met with me at the HOW Design Live Conference conference this year in Chicago. We speak 30+ years of VSA Partners, Harley Davidson, how I am not named after Donovan L...

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Julie Anixter& Andrew La Monica: The Reflex Blue Show #176 from 2017-07-17T14:42:40

Julie Anixter (AIGA Executive Director) and Andrew La Monica (Ande& Partners) met with me at the HOW Design Live Conference conference this year in Chicago. We speak AIGA, the AIGA National ...

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Nikita Prokhorov: The Reflex Blue Show #172 from 2017-05-24T01:41:33

Nikita Prokhorov was attending this year’s HOW Design Live Conference, and I knew immediately that I wanted to have him on the show. His ambigram work, as well as his book, Ambigrams Revea...

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Justin Dauer: The Reflex Blue Show #171 from 2017-05-15T16:35:18

Justin Dauer met with me just before the HOW Design Live Conference got kicked into full-gear in Chicago two weeks ago. In 2015, Justin wrote an article on“Resetting Agency Culture” ...

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HOW Design Live 2017, Conference Recap 4 of 4 : Amy Reyes, Cami Travis-Groves, Emily Potts from 2017-05-11T13:05:41

Amy Reyes, Cami Travis-Groves, and Emily Potts discuss the final full day of 2017’s HOW Design Live in Chicago. No week seems to go by quicker than the one spent at HOW Design Live. Seeing...

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HOW Design Live 2017, Conference Recap 3 of 4 : Justin Ahrens, David Carson, Aaron Draplin, Doug Grever from 2017-05-10T12:46:07

Justin Ahrens, David Carson, Aaron Draplin, and Doug Grever discuss the third day of 2017’s HOW Design Live in Chicago. This was the final day of the exhibit hall, and I made the most of i...

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FORGE: The Reflex Blue Show #170 from 2017-04-25T13:32:48

Omaha’s Emspace Group (located just a few blocks, and across Pacific Street, from my office at Eleven19), got rid of their internship program around five years ago. Why? FORGE. In an effor...

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Antionette Carroll& Cathy Solarana: The Reflex Blue Show #169 from 2017-04-17T16:09:45

Antionette Carroll (founder of AIGA National’s Diversity+Inclusion Initiative | founder of Creative Reaction Lab) and Cathy Solarana (AIGA Nebraska Director of Diversity& Inclusio...

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Carlos Estrada&Cathy Solarana: The Reflex Blue Show #168 from 2017-03-13T10:05:23

Carlos Estrada (AIGA West Michigan Diversity+Inclusion Director| Design Consultant at Herman Miller) and Cathy Solarana (AIGA Nebraska Director of Diversity& Inclusion| Owner of Wh...

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Amy Schwartz: The Reflex Blue Show #167 from 2017-02-27T06:30:59

Amy Schwartz (Design Director at Cards Against Humanity) joins us to talk about, well, Cards Against Humanity. Recorded during AAF Omaha‘s Meet the Pros, we also chat about getting that fi...

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Superb Owl Spectacular IX from 2017-02-07T08:04:10

It’s our ninth (twelfth (xii!) for those hanging around since the BADCast days) yearly check out of some ads during the football game. Cody Fenske, Steve Gordon, Chris Kelly, and Tom Nemitz (who...

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Cody Fenske&Steve Gordon: The Reflex Blue Show #166 from 2017-01-31T07:12:12

Cody Fenske (who did the Season 10 graphics for The Reflex Blue Show) and Steve Gordon (who is no strange to The Reflex Blue Show) stop by to chat about finding a job, the importance of friends,...

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Justin Ahrens: The Reflex Blue Show #165 from 2017-01-16T12:05:52

Justin Ahrens of Rule29, one of my favorite guests, joins the Reflex Blue Show to discuss his Design Of podcast, Wheels 4 Water, Designing for Good, AIGA (Justin just joined the National Board),...

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Round and Round: The Reflex Blue Show #164 from 2016-10-31T07:32:47

Justin Kemerling, Jake Welchert, and Adam Casey may each have their own design studios, but they operate out of the same co-working space in Omaha, Nebraska – Round and Round. We speak co-workin...

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Cathy Solarana: The Reflex Blue Show #163 from 2016-10-11T08:03:47

Cathy Solarana gave a very well received workshop on Brand Therapy at the 2015 AIGA National Conference in New Orleans. Since then, she’s built on it, and we speak of how Brand Therapy has...

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David Sherwin: The Reflex Blue Show #162 from 2016-08-31T06:30:48

David Sherwin joins me for the last of the six interviews recorded at HOW Design Live in Atlanta. As one half of the newly formed The Sherwins LLC, we talk about building teams, working with tea...

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Sean Adams: The Reflex Blue Show #161 from 2016-08-31T05:42:59

Sean Adams was the AIGA President, twice. He received the AIGA Medal in 2014 with Noreen Morioka for over 20 years of work with AdamsMorioka. Now? We catch up with Sean to discuss a bit of the p...

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Bill Gardner: The Reflex Blue Show #160 from 2016-07-19T05:56:37

Bill Gardner of Gardner Design specializes in logos. Well, that’s an understatement. Bill is the man behind the site with over 240,000 logos – LogoLounge.com, co-authored 14 LogoLounge boo...

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Kit Hinrichs: The Reflex Blue Show #159 from 2016-06-28T06:47:02

AIGA Medalist Kit Hinrichs was speaking at HOW Design Live in Atlanta, and I took the opportunity to sit down and chat with him about many of the things he’s been up to – Sappi’s The...

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Terri Trespicio: The Reflex Blue Show #158 from 2016-06-21T06:28:21

Terri Trespicio has appeared many times on Martha Stewart’s Show, gave an amazing TEDxKC talk on why you should stop searching for your passion, and was speaking at HOW Design Live in Atla...

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Jim Krause&Cami Travis-Groves: The Reflex Blue Show #157 from 2016-06-14T07:38:09

  Jim Krause and Cami Travis-Groves join me for the first (of six) full episodes of The Reflex Blue Show I recorded at HOW Design Live in Atlanta, Georgia. We talk about roasting coffee bea...

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HOW Design Live 2016, Recap 4 of 4: The Reflex Blue Show Conference Special from 2016-06-02T06:43:03

Our final recap of HOW Design Live in Atlanta (has it already been two weeks since the event kicked off?), brings us Stephanie Carpenter of Hamilton Wood Type& Printing Museum and Alex Cohen...

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HOW Design Live 2016, Recap 3 of 4: The Reflex Blue Show Conference Special from 2016-06-01T07:05:44

Aaron Draplin, Von Glitschka, Damien Golden, Karen Larson, Debbie Millman, Crystal Reynolds, and Jamie Saunders recap day three of HOW Design Live in Atlanta with me. And the coloring book I dis...

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HOW Design Live 2016, Recap 2 of 4: The Reflex Blue Show Conference Special from 2016-05-31T06:36:51

We recap day two of HOW Design Live in Atlanta with Chip Kidd, Erik Hluchan, Hank Richardson, and Jamie Saunders. Enjoy. The Reflex Blue Show

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HOW Design Live 2016, Recap 1 of 4: The Reflex Blue Show Conference Special from 2016-05-30T06:09:07

HOW Design Live in Atlanta may have been a week ago, but it’s finally starting to settle in how much actually happened. It always amazes me that it really takes a few days after getting ba...

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Seymour Chwast&Steven Heller: The Reflex Blue Show #156 from 2016-05-17T09:56:13

Looking through the archives of Seymour Chwast’s work does not take long to see years of anti-war work. But even with his studio work (The Pushpin Group, Inc., originally founded in 1954 a...

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Ashley McFeely&Jim Wolf: The Reflex Blue Show #155 from 2016-04-04T12:10:37

We bring in two of the Omaha designer teachers in Ashley McFeely and Jim Wolf. We speak teaching, special topic courses, and Jim’s internship. Enjoy. The Reflex Blue Show

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Chris Kelly&Aaron Stubbe: The Reflex Blue Show #154 from 2016-03-07T07:49:37

We bring back Chris Kelly and Aaron Stubbe to discuss red flags – when looking for a design job, as well as when realizing you need to be looking for a design job. We also speak about what we fi...

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Superb Owl Spectacular VIII from 2016-02-09T12:58:04

It’s our eight (eleventh (xi!) for those hanging around since the BADCast days) yearly check out some ads during the football game. This is always one of the most fun shows to record – I h...

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James Victore: The Reflex Blue Show #153 from 2016-01-27T07:21:34

What better way to kick off Season 9 of The Reflex Blue Show than with James Victore? We recorded this just over a week ago when James was sitting in a pile of boxes preparing to move from his s...

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Val Head: The Reflex Blue Show #152 from 2016-01-11T15:19:52

AIGA Minnesota’s Design Camp was solid from start to finish (hopefully we do it even partial justice during these podcasts) – and a lot of it was just how diverse the speaker selection was...

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Kate Bingaman-Burt: The Reflex Blue Show #151 from 2015-12-28T14:35:46

AIGA Minnesota’s Design Camp brought a pleasant surprise – Kate Bingaman-Burt was one of the main speakers (and the 4th of 5 interviews we recorded while there). I think I met Kate a few t...

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Emily Cohen: The Reflex Blue Show #150 from 2015-12-07T08:04:01

AIGA Minnesota’s Design Camp not only brought in the five 5‘main stage’ speakers (and a couple dozen Twin City speakers for breakout sessions), but also flew in the brutally ho...

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John Pickerill: The Reflex Blue Show #149 from 2015-11-30T07:55:15

AIGA Minnesota’s Design Camp is the largest regional design conference for a reason – not only do they bring in 5‘main stage’ speakers, but there are a couple dozen breakout se...

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James Edmondson: The Reflex Blue Show #148 from 2015-11-18T06:56:56

You may have followed some of my 2015 trip to AIGA Minnesota’s Design Camp on Neenah Paper’s blog, or even caught the podcast recap, but I made sure to record some interviews with fi...

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AIGA Minnesota’s Design Camp 2015: The Reflex Blue Show Conference Special from 2015-10-21T06:34:27

AIGA Minnesota’s Design Camp weather-wise, was so much better than my freezing experience from last year. For an event held October 2-4, 2015 in Northern Minnesota, temperature is a risk, ...

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Emily Brick: The Reflex Blue Show #147 from 2015-10-13T06:14:20

It seems like only yesterday that we sent Ben Lueders off to cover some new fangled conference called the HOW Interactive Design Conference in San Francisco. I guess it’s been almost four ...

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Ken Lo: The Reflex Blue Show #146 from 2015-07-20T06:02:08

The final of our six interviews recorded at the 2015 HOW Design Live in Chicago is with Ken Lo of BLOW. We talk about packaging design, logo design, and being a designer in Hong Kong among other...

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Jessica Helfand: The Reflex Blue Show #145 from 2015-07-13T06:06:33

The fifth of our six interviews recorded at the 2015 HOW Design Live in Chicago is with Jessica Helfand of Design Observer. We talk about Design Observer, The Observatory (her podcast with Micha...

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Justin Ahrens&Wills Francis: The Reflex Blue Show #144 from 2015-07-06T07:41:20

The fourth of our six interviews recorded at the 2015 HOW Design Live in Chicago is with Justin Ahrens and Wills Francis of Rule29. We talk about Wheels 4 Water, Culture vs. Creative, and podcas...

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Matteo Bologna: The Reflex Blue Show #143 from 2015-06-15T07:05:29

The third of our six interviews recorded at the 2015 HOW Design Live in Chicago is with Matteo Bologna. We talk about his company (Mucca Design), his eventually upcoming Foundry (MuccaTypo), one...

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Megan Mead: The Reflex Blue Show #142 from 2015-06-02T16:04:58

The second of our six interviews recorded at HOW Design Live is with who I consider the winner of this year’s best presentation title – Megan Mead. We spend the entire episode talking abou...

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Michael Bierut: The Reflex Blue Show #141 from 2015-05-27T16:11:15

The first of our six interviews recorded at HOW Design Live is with none other than Michael Bierut of Pentagram. We talk about logo and identity design, Command X, Design Observer‘s new po...

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HOW Design Live 2015, Recap 3 of 3: The Reflex Blue Show Conference Special from 2015-05-19T06:17:56

It’s not really HOW Design Live without a few social settings.And sometimes that means recording a recap from the hotel bar just before the closing evening events are about to start up. Cami...

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HOW Design Live 2015, Recap 2 of 3: The Reflex Blue Show Conference Special from 2015-05-18T07:45:55

The exhibit hall at HOW Design Live in Chicago is the biggest single area of design vendors you will find all year. On my second day, I actually went around and recorded from a few booths to get a...

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HOW Design Live 2015, Recap 1 of 3: The Reflex Blue Show Conference Special from 2015-05-17T13:06:49

As usual, HOW Design Live in Chicago went by WAY to quickly. Thankfully I was able to record a few clips that really remind me of the event, and of a what a great experience being with over 4,000 ...

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Von Glitschka: The Reflex Blue Show #140 from 2015-05-17T13:06:24

Von Glitschka seems to draw more in a day than most of us draw in a year – just a crazy amount of talent and work has come from his studio over the years. We speak of his new book –[…]↓...

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Superb Owl Spectacular VII from 2015-02-03T09:18:17

It’s our yearly check out some ads during the football game, and lets talk about them. Once again, Tom Nemitz leads a discussion with myself, Aaron Stubbe, Chris Kelly, and Ashley McFeely. E...

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Master’s Degree?: The Reflex Blue Show #139 from 2015-01-19T16:07:08

Welcome to Season 8 of The Reflex Blue Show! No idea what we have planned for this season, but we’ve started it anyway. On this episode we invite Ashley McFeely and Joe Sparano to talk about...

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Brent Stickles: The Reflex Blue Show #138 from 2014-12-15T13:08:32

The final of four interviews (not including the recap) from AIGA Minnesota’s Design Camp is with Brent Stickles of YYES. Brent has been the Design Camp stage host / MC / one of the committee...

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Ty Mattson: The Reflex Blue Show #137 from 2014-12-08T10:39:07

The third of four interviews (not including the recap) from AIGA Minnesota’s Design Camp is with Ty Mattson of Mattson Creative. We speak of his illustrations for Dexter, Lost, Breaking Bad,...

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Studio on Fire: The Reflex Blue Show #136 from 2014-11-30T14:33:36

The second of four interviews (not including the recap) from AIGA Minnesota’s Design Camp is with a few of the people from Studio on Fire – Ben Levitz, Sam Michaels, and Steven Senger. we sp...

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