Episode 82: At 4 O'Clock, It's Different Soup (with Ellen Matza) - a podcast by Natural Encounters, Inc.

Chris and Ari are joined by fellow NEI-er Ellen Matza to discuss the following training scenario: when you're working with an animal and you're not getting the behavior you're looking for, is it better to change one environmental variable at a time, or a bunch of stuff at once? Our answers will SHOCK you!*

*Said absolutely no one who's heard us discuss anything training related, like, ever.

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