Is it possible to find joy through pain?  

Are joy and pain exclusive or can they both be experienced at the same time?  In this episode, we discuss the power joy has in our spiritual lives and that it can not only be experienced through painful life experiences but oftentimes by leaning into our pain, joy naturally arises. 

Here is one of our favorite quotes that best sums up this episode. 

“Discovering more joy does not, save us from the inevitability of hardship and heartbreak. In fact, we may cry more easily, but we will laugh more easily too. Perhaps we are just more alive. Yet as we discover more joy, we can face suffering in a way that ennobles rather than embitters. We have hardship without becoming hard. We have heartbreaks without being broken.”

― Desmond Tutu

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