TU15: Decoding The Science Of Interpersonal Neurobiology - a podcast by Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Unpacking The Science of Interpersonal Neurobiology

Unpack the complicated science behind the brain, the mind and secure relating with psychotherapists and co-hosts of this podcast, Ann Kelley, Patty Olwell and Sue Marriott as they break down the complicated subject of Interpersonal Neurobiology to make it usable in real life.



Interpersonal neurobiology sounds complicated but it isn’t. Use this in business, families, civic organizations and couples.

What Is Interpersonal Neurobiology

It’s related to the mind, to the brain and to many different disciplines of science that come together and basically agree on a few things, which is in itself amazing, and it all move towards the idea of mental health and overall well being.



IN (interpersonal neurobiology) is a term coined by Dan Siegel (see show notes for extensive referencing). Neural plasticity basically means it’s never too late, the brain inside your skull is ever-changing and affected by our daily practices. Neural plasticity is explained in some detail and is a point of hope in aging, brain injury, trauma, neglect, attachment injuries and relationships.



Healing occurs by practice and work in compassionate social relationships.



Besides brain biology which we went over in Therapist Uncensored Episode 2, where we emphasized the importance of the PFC (pre-frontal cortex) in empathic relating, IN picks up in how to stay connected to your PFC. Siegel talks about striving for FACES flow, which is an integrated neural state, integration being a primary point in IN.

Important Concepts



* FACES flow – FLEXIBLE ACTIVE COHERENT ENERGETIC SECURE (pre-frontal cortex active!!)

* COAL to get to FACES – COAL is to relate to oneself in a CURIOUS, OPEN, ACCEPTING, and LOVING manner no matter what you are feeling. Cool off the mid-brain/limbic and move up to a more regulated calm place in the mind.

* Name it to tame it is a concept you’ll hear about to bring online neural aspects which will help you master feelings, bring in the pause, get you to and through COAL to FACES.

* Neurons that fire together wire together, Hebbs Law. For better or worse.

* Connect before you correct, parenting concept but also applicable in close relationships.

* Triangle of well-being,  MIND, BRAIN, RELATIONSHIP. Especially applicable to therapists.

* Mindsight – being able to see your own and others mind. Also called reflective function.



 

RESOURCES:

Additional resources for this episode:



* Dan Siegel-Mind: A Journey to the Heart of Being Human New York Times Bestseller

* Tara Brach-Radical Acceptance

* Resource guide by Dr. Dan Siegel

* These and other resources have been collected for you on our Resources page!

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