"It was tough, a lot of bands didn't like us." Australian Crawl bassist Paul Williams celebrates the 40th anniversary of Sirocco - a podcast by Triple M

Australian Crawl bassist Paul Williams catches up with Triple M's Brendo on the 40th anniversary of the band's first number one record, Sirocco.

Hear how the record came together, the positive influence of Guy McDonough's addition to the band, the track Paul co-wrote that spawned a Guns n' Roses plagiarism debate and how the band accidentally fell into their own niche.

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