THE MIND OF THE DEVIL-Dr. Al Carlisle - a podcast by Dan Zupansky -

“He could not stop what he was doing. It was either sex or suicide.”


It’s often said that we will likely never understand how a person becomes a serial killer. However, I believe we can. In fact, we must, if we are ever going to find a way to stop the sexual abuse of children. But it’s not only the victims we want to save. We also want to stop our children from transforming themselves into killers.


Arthur Gary Bishop and Westley Allan Dodd had many things in common. They were both psychopathic pedophiles and prolific child molesters who eventually turned to killing their victims. Both were executed for their crimes at their own request. Most importantly, both desperately wanted to know one thing before they died:


How did I become a serial killer?


This book is an attempt to answer that question. THE MIND OF A DEVIL: The Case of Arthur Gary Bishop and Westley Allan Dodd-Dr. Al Carlisle

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