Podcasts by Two Old Bitches: Stories from Women who Reimagine, Reinvent and Rebel
Love your bitchy self! Join us – Idelisse Malavé and Joanne Sandler the Two Old Bitches (from New York City) – as we celebrate kick-ass, unstoppable women from around the world. Women over 50 tell us how they re-imagine their lives, their bodies, their relationships and their creativity as they go through huge transitions. The 87-year old former dance teacher who lived with Andy Warhol in the 1960s and became an accomplished painter in her 80s; the 79-year old Australian activist who left her country for 44 years and returned in her 60s to create a new love life and home; the 55-year old Indian American feminist who transitions from fierce feminist activist to shamanic healer. Be inspired! Laugh and cry with us! Contact us and let us interview you!
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SO 9 Episode 03: June Millington - Music is Life from 2023-11-02T21:57:20
If you were deeply enmeshed in the ‘womyn’s’ music scene or romped topless through the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festivals in the 1970s and 1980s, then you will pulsate with memor...
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SO 9 Episode 02: The Only Two-Old Bitches Interview of ChatGPT Ever!! from 2023-09-24T15:06:23
We couldn't resist. We were way too curious about ChatGPT to let all of the controversy and (rightful) concern about the dangers of AI deter us from asking it about our favorite topic: the exper...
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SO 9 Episode 01: Maryjane Fahey - Glorious Broad from 2023-09-05T12:19
Two Old Bitches love a good reinvention story. By her count at 73, MaryJane Fahey is on “her 5th reinvention!” (But who’s counting?) She was a...
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SO 8 Episode 10: Branca Moreria Alves - Call Me Feminist from 2023-02-24T06:00
Branca Moreira Alves, 82, is absolutely certain about a lot of things: that her primary identity is ‘feminist’, that life is a lot of fun, and that moments matter. A key leade...
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SO 8 Episode 09: Epiphanies, Turning Points and Serendipity from 2023-02-08T13:47:31
You know those “aha” moments, those flashing lights of clarity, the thundering realization that you’ve met your passion? We realized that so many of the women we’...
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SO 8 Episode 08: Rosanne Ebner and Liberty Valance – The Clay Knows Better from 2023-01-09T06:00
Gifted ceramic artists Rosanne Ebner, 67, and Liberty Valance, 73, have worked with clay for five or six decades. They say laugh...
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SO 8 Episode 07: Donna Uchizono - Still the One and Only from 2022-12-13T06:00
Donna Uchizono is the first and only American-born choreographer of Asian ancestry to receive notable national and international recognition in the history of modern da...
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SO 8 Episode 06: Jody Oberfelder - A Creative Move a Day from 2022-11-01T05:00
Gutsy, vital, creative Jody Oberfelder is committed to a life of ‘becoming,’ recognizing that becoming older is also about learning to trust your voice and contin...
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SO 8 Episode 05: Marlies Yearby – Deep Body Listener from 2022-10-20T19:59:54
“I have to create, because that is an extension of my breath,” is just one of the many insights into living deeply and meaningfully as an artist that 62-year old direct...
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SO 8 Episode 04: Screen Bitches on Good Luck to You Leo Grande, Hacks and Borgen from 2022-09-26T12:04
What are you streaming these days? Two Old Bitches always wants to know, especially if you find shows that feature pithy, provocative and stereotype-busting roles...
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SO8 Episode 03: Judy Gold – You Can’t Argue With An Older Woman from 2022-09-12T17:06:56
As soon as we learned we landed an interview with Judy Gold, stellar comedian, actor and writer, Two Old Bitches started grinning and giggling. What a coup! Once we a...
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SO8 Episode 02: Ayesha Pande – Understanding the World Differently from 2022-08-18T18:10:54
Fifteen years ago, Ayesha Pande, a successful editor with top publishers (e.g. Farrar Straus and Giroux) struck out on her own to build a mission-driven literary agency with an antiracist focus ...
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SO8 Episode 01: Stephen P. Williams - Are You Stephen’s People? from 2022-07-07T14:37:33
What does it take to be a man whom we interview on Two Old Bitches? Stephen P. Williams, 64, only the second man on our show in five years, is an excellent example of...
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SO7 Episode 14 Reprise: Lecia Brooks and Lisa Veneklasen - Politics and Possibility from 2022-06-20T11:25:04
How do we respond to this political moment? Pessimism is tempting and optimism may feel foolhardy, yet a sense of possibility fueled by hope made enduring sense to us when we spoke with Lecia Br...
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SO7 Episode 13 Reprise: Maya Wiley - The Possibilist from 2022-06-06T05:00
Maya is a nationally renowned racial justice and equity activist and advocate who ran for mayor of New York City in 2021. She should have won! In our conversation with her in 2018, she shared th...
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SO7 Episode 12 Reprise: Leah Wise - The Perfect Balance from 2022-05-23T09:53:09
Our conversation with activist historian and organizer, Leah Wise, now 75, originally aired i...
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SO7 Episode 11 Reprise: Mothers - It’s Complicated from 2022-05-08T20:33:27
In honor of Mother's Day we are bringing back this classic from season 4.
“Two of my heroes are mother and my grandmother…My mother taught me to be a woman. She was the stron...
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SO7 Episode 10: Ellen Bravo - Standing Up from 2022-04-25T12:36:25
We have long marveled at Ellen Bravo’s ability to balance the demands of being a feminist activist and author. Her books are driven by the same social change...
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SO7 Episode 09: Red-Boots Kickass Bitch and Wisdom Hag from 2022-03-14T05:00
What a treat to talk with a fierce feminist who’s been a force of nature for more than half a century! At 71, Nadine embodies a lifelong commitment and ever-ev...
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SO7 Episode 08: Two Old Bitches/StoriedLives from 2022-02-14T23:54:13
Stories transport us across time and space, bring us together, help us make sense of our lives and the world, make us laugh and cry, and even change our minds. Stories ...
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SO7 Episode 07: Sari Botton – The Oldster from 2022-01-25T06:00:31
What’s better than ‘talking shop’ with a serious and sensational sister traveler? That was the joy that TOB experienced when we interviewed Sari Botton, founder of th...
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SO7 Episode 06: Screen Bitches – Why We Love Hacks from 2022-01-06T06:00
There could be no greater gift to Screen Bitches than finding the HBO-Max series Hacks, starring Jean Smart. We brought together three of our most dedicated Old B...
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SO7 Episode 05: Isa Infante – Of Course I Can! from 2021-12-16T14:08:34
Prepare to be utterly astounded as you listen to our conversation with Isa Infante! This self-described “life force,” follows her heart and her values, wherever t...
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SO7 Episode 04: Meet the Authors! from 2021-11-29T06:00
When do you turn to books? Sometimes for escape (mysteries, anyone), sometimes for the joys of fine literature (Matrix by Lauren Goff or Haik...
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SO7 Episode 03: Julie Cajune&Jennifer Finley – “Bad Indians” from 2021-11-05T12:08:35
“What I want all of my work to do is expand the definition of who Indians think they can be and how they think they can be in the world and their space for al...
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SO7 Episode 02: Tammi Leader Fuller - Campowerment from 2021-10-22T05:00
If you are committed to ‘choosing your own adventure’ you’ll want to tune in immediately to TOB’s conversation with Tammi Leader Fuller, the effervescent co-creat...
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SO7 Episode 01: Claron M. McFadden - This Is My Destiny from 2021-10-01T05:00
Just before the pandemic shut down live performances across the world, the American soprano Claron M. McFadden appeared with pianist Alexander Melnikov at London’...
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SO7: Trailer from 2021-09-27T23:57:56
Feminist thinkers, activists and authors Idelisse Malavé, 74, and Joanne Sandler, 70, created and host Two Old Bitches, a podcast featuring conversations with wo...
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SO6 Episode 10: Heidi Woordhuis - Crone of Anarchy from 2021-07-22T09:00
“The world tells women-of-a-certain-age to be invisible, be innocuous with quiet voices. We’ve got news for you, world…WE’RE DONE WITH YOUR BULLSHIT!” These are the words that appear wh...
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SO6 Bonus Episode: Call Your Girlfriend Podcast Summer of Friendship - Two Old Bitches from 2021-07-19T09:00
SO6 Episode 09: Trudy Berlin - A 98-Year-Old Work-in-Progress from 2021-06-01T05:00
Imagine your life as a perpetual learning journey where you grow braver and more transcendent as the years pass. That is how Trudy Berlin has lived. She is the 98...
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SO6 Bonus Episode: A Guided Meditation from 2021-05-10T05:30
Jaune Evans was originally ordained as a priest in the White Plum Lineage by Bernie Glassman and Taizan Maezumi Roshi in 1983 at the Zen Community of New York. She is now a priest and ...
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SO6 Episode 08: Bodhisattvas&QuaranQueens from 2021-05-10T05:00
Surprise! Despite being at higher risk, older folks have weathered this past year in better spirits than younger people, according to Listen
SO6 Bonus Episode: A Feminist Parable: "But My Neighbor Is Fasting" by Srilatha Batliwala from 2021-04-19T13:52:12
SO6 Episode 07: Srilatha Batliwala - Granny Sri from 2021-04-14T09:00
At 69, Srilatha Batliwala is a feminist grandmother to her four grandchildren and also sees “grandmothering” as a metaphor for how she operates in the wor...
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SO6 Episode 06: Sonoko Sakai – Salary Woman No More! from 2021-03-26T13:00
SO6 Episode 05: Screen Bitches - What We’re Watching from 2021-03-11T10:00
“What have you been watching?” “See anything good lately?” are questions many of us routinely ask each other, especially during the pandemic. A trusted recommenda...
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SO6 Episode 04: Dina Bursztyn - ArTchaeologist from 2021-02-11T10:00
Exploring the idea of creating an intentional living community for creatives, and the Hudson Valley, led us (Idelisse and Joanne) to the small town of Catskill, NY where we were enchanted to fin...
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SO6 Episode 03: Politics and Possibility from 2021-01-24T15:40:33
How do we respond to this political moment? Pessimism is tempting and optimism may feel foolhardy, yet a sense of possibility fueled by hope makes enduring sense to us. After the Biden/Harris vi...
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SO6 Episode 02: Ilana Landsberg-Lewis - Happily Getting Older from 2021-01-05T13:27:05
With “thousands of grandmothers' voices and stories” in her head, Ilana Landsberg-Lewis, a Canadian labor and human rights lawyer and passionate women’s rights ad...
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SO6 Episode 01: Lipstick! from 2020-12-22T10:00
"When I'm wearing matte, it's like 'I dare you to come closer!"
So warns feminist activist H...
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SO5 Episode 10: Ruth Strassberg – Stranger in a Strange Land from 2020-04-21T19:18:09
There are so many colorful threads in the life story that Ruth Strassberg, 76, weaves for us in this episode of Two Old Bitches. Her journey to the U.S. from an Italian displaced persons camp in...
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SO5 Episode 09: Cynthia Madansky - Always Avant Garde from 2020-03-15T15:35:46
Cynthia Madansky, 58, describes herself as a Jewish, queer filmmaker and artist. For TOB, she embodies what it means to live a creative life. The recognition she has received – a Fulbright, a G...
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SO5 Episode 08: What Else Is There but Pleasure? from 2020-02-14T10:00
SO5 Episode 07: Chiemi Karasawa – Finding the Power in Sacred Reciprocity from 2019-12-31T19:00:30
If you’ve seen Chiemi Karasawa’s award-winning film “<...
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SO5 Episode 06: Joanne’s Obsession - An Unforgettable Story of Sexual Harassment at the United Nations from 2019-12-17T09:52:38
TOB listeners probably know that co-host Joanne Sandler worked at the United Nations for nearly 20 years. One of the many UN stories that fascinated he...
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S05 Episode 05: Julie Cajune – The Sum of Her Stories from 2019-12-02T10:00
SO5 Episode 04: Lucero Gonzalez – La Feminista Que Si Pudo (Version en espan?ol) from 2019-11-17T21:21:44
SO5 Episode 04: Lucero Gonzalez – The Feminist Who Could (English version) from 2019-11-17T21:05:48
"Moving from dream to desire to reality."
That describes the life of our magical friend, activist and photographer, Lucero Gonzalez. At 72, Lucero's feminism, her love of freedom...
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SO5 Episode 03: Tish and Snooky Bellomo – Aging Disgracefully (Founders/owners of Manic Panic) from 2019-11-01T13:36:39
Just because we’re older doesn’t mean we can’t have fun. WE always say we don’t want to age gracefully. We want to age disgracefully!
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SO5 Episode 02: Debbie Zimmerman - Film with Feminism from 2019-09-26T13:41:57
“I couldn’t do film without feminism. And, I don’t think I want to do the feminism without the film.”
The world needs much more of Debbie Zimmerman, the long-time Executive Direc...
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SO5 Episode 01: Sandra Guzman - At the Feet of Her Elders from 2019-09-09T09:00
“I am 54. I don’t know what that means anymore. In my 20s and 30, when I thought about what 50 would feel like, I thought it was going to be old and cranky. And I’m coming together really ni...
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S04 Episode 10: Mother’s More Than a Day from 2019-05-10T15:45:46
“Two of my heroes are mother and my grandmother…My mother taught me to be a woman. She was the strongest person I’ve ever met. And someday I’ll be the woman s...
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SO4 Episode 09: Hrag Vartanian - Serious, Playful and Radical from 2019-04-19T18:52:36
“I didn't want to brag but I did want to impress on you that I'm probably the biggest bitch you've ever encountered!”
Who else but Hrag Vartanian could help us to break through anot...
SO4 Episode 08: Tracy Hyter-Suffern - Quite a Handful from 2019-03-22T04:00
“I’m either the world’s greatest storyteller or the world’s greatest secret keeper.”
At 60, Tracy Hyter-Suffern, can proudly say, “I am coming into my own. I’m the woman my moth...
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SO4 Episode 07: Sharon Louden - Radical Generosity from 2019-02-26T02:55:24
“The only thing I could do in high school was make art,” Sharon Louden shares with us early in our conversation. She remembers that, in her secretarial shorthand classes, she simply could not st...
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SO4 Episode 06: Michaela Walsh - The Next Adventure from 2019-02-11T17:33:29
Michaela Walsh - The Next Adventure
"The one thing I wanted in life was not to be cynical when I get old and, I’ve discovered that by looking at life as an adventure, there’s no...
SO4 Episode 05: Renata Joy - Pure Joy! from 2019-01-23T04:44:05
SO4 Episode 04: Bitches Know - How to Totally Avoid Jet-Lag Forever! from 2019-01-14T15:56:03
More than 90% of travelers who cross time zones suffer from jet lag. Are you one of them? No more! Take 3 minutes of your time now to hear the Old Bitches reveal – for the first time ever -- the...
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SO4 Episode 03: (New Feature!) Bitches Know - Social Security from 2018-12-19T19:30:30
Is it possible that you're losing thousands of dollars a year because you don't know the in's and out's of the U.S. Social Security system? Did you know that there might be some sure-fire ways t...
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S04 Episode 02: No Regrets from 2018-12-09T21:18:44
“I was a little nervous. Two Old Bitches? And I thought, 'Ou-oh. What if they’re cute. If they’re cute, I’m going to throw up.’” - Ashton Applewhite
What do you think when ...
SO4 Episode 01: Geeta Misra - Dancing on the Edge from 2018-11-02T09:00
“Bold and brave. Dancing on the edge. Living each day as if it’s my first or last."
At 55 years, Geeta has perfected the practice of joyful disruption. She moves seamlessly...
S03 Episode 10: Joy Kane - If They're Buying It, I'm Teaching It from 2018-07-31T07:01:43
"I’m so happy. That’s what surprises me. I never thought I’d survive 50. I’ve been suicidal a lot of the time. I was so poor and such a mess. And my life is beautiful now. Beautiful. Listen
S03 Episode 09: Houry Geudelekian - The Original Houry! from 2018-06-18T16:29:35
"I lived the first 15 years of our life without any reflection. No questioning about who am I? What do I want? That is my fight in life right now. Not just for myself but for every single gi...
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S03 Episode 08: Hendrica Okondo - Born, Bred and Wed in Nairobi from 2018-05-15T15:19:19
"I’m still the same person that was my mother's disciple. Women have to have their own resources. That’s what my mother was saying when she said, 'Your husband is your degree'. You need your...
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S03 Episode 07: Maya Wiley - The Possibilist from 2018-03-30T15:48:47
"To me, it's not about age, it's not about race, it's not about ideology...I don't know that we have ever confron...
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S03 Episode 06: Emma&Idelisse - To A Beloved Buddha Mom from 2018-03-06T10:00
"I’d be struggling to make the fabric do what I wanted and she’d say, ‘no, you have to listen to the fabric, the fabric will tell you where it wants to go.’"
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S03 Episode 05: Betsy ‘La Guapa’ Gude - Fearless Adventurer from 2018-02-05T01:40:19
"It was just an ocean of stars. And you’re in the middle of night. And it’s pitch black. You can’t see your hand in front of you. And…you just sit there and wait for the light."
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S03 Episode 04: Luxor Tavella - Icon of West Broadway and Soho from 2017-12-29T00:31:53
Citing her age at somewhere between 5 and 100 years old (decide for yourself, she suggests), Luxor Tavella revels in beauty, art and mystery. Forty three years ago -- after leaving her native Mi...
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S03 Episode 03: Janice Zarro Brodman - Sex Rules! from 2017-12-11T13:19:06
Janice Zarro Brodman is a writer and political activist who busts norms and defies categories. That’s why she wrote her recently released book, “Sex Rules!: Astonishing Sexual Practices and Gend...
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S03 Episode 02: Martha Cortes - Lady, You Don’t Need Any Help! from 2017-11-07T19:33:43
“If you’re in love with what you’re doing., what are you going to retire for? ...What are you going to do for the next 25 years?”
For 63-year old Martha Cortes, ...
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S03 Episode 01: Ashton Applewhite - This Chair Rocks! from 2017-10-11T15:16:05
“Sexism on its own is so ugly. When you pair it with ageism, it is devastating.”
“Why is our view of late life so unrelievedly grim when the lived reality is so different?”...
S02 Episode 10: Freida Williams and Diane Scanlon - What’s This Song Good For? from 2017-09-04T15:12:03
"When you’re in a band, there’s a dance you’re all doing. When it works it’s orgasmic. Everyone is listening, moving together. It’s perfect. " - D...
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S02 Episode 09: Inca Alexandrina Mohamed - My Life Is My Art from 2017-07-19T20:36:29
Race is for me the bottom line. When I’m seen, I’m seen as black more than a woman. Maybe that’s a reality of be...
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S02 Episode 08: Sondra Lee - As I Was Saying from 2017-06-20T14:11:47
"I’m someone who’s very lucky. I didn’t come from anything fancy. I’ve always been determined to do whatever it w...
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S02 Episode 07: Malaga Baldi - No One is Watching from 2017-06-06T12:26:55
"I’d like to write the great American novel, but I don’t think I’m the person to do that. I think I’m the person to find that.”
Whether you’re thinking about writing a book or ju...
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S02 Episode 06: Kathy Brew - Unfurling Like A Spiral from 2017-05-04T09:00
"Certainly I have felt many times that I’m hovering over an abyss. But you have to make that leap over to get to the other side."
Kathy Brew, 64, is a self-defined, label-defying “...
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S02 Episode 05: Socorro Reyes - Harvest Time from 2017-04-25T03:56:14
"I am what I am. I have defined who I am. I no longer have to be careful with what I say because it might offend some organizational rules. So I’m able to be the ...
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S02 Episode 04: Jaune Evans - Weaving and Spinning from 2017-04-17T01:41:27
"I think about that wonderful Adrienne Rich quote that the genius of a spider is that she weaves and spins at the same time. That for me is the guiding principle in writing: to weave an...
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S02 Episode 03: Ana Falu - I Am What I Am! from 2017-04-06T18:04:05
"We were convinced of our ideas. That gave us the power to confront the tragic situation of the dictatorships. The truth is that we were ready to die for what we believe."
Ana Fa...
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S02 Episode 02: Aruna Rao - Feeling Good from 2017-03-17T22:53:59
Aruna Rao, 61, is co-founder and Executive Director of Gender at Work, a global network of people dedicated to building cultures of equality. She dreams of singing “the blues like Nina Simone a...
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S02 Episode 01: Leah Wise – The Perfect Balance from 2017-03-10T16:26:18
S01 Episode 10: Dodo Berk - Age Is A Number, and Mine is Unlisted from 2017-03-02T17:57:27
My husband, when I married him, was a very shy man. He always got third billing. He would always say, “Dodo, you have the talent of an amateur and the temperament of a star!”<...
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S01 Episode 09: Radhika Balakrishnan - I Want To Know What They Know from 2017-02-22T14:36:49
We joined Radhika Balakrishnan, 58, for a conversation about politics, economics and bitchcraft right before Christmas. Radhika is an activist, a to-the-bone feminist and an economist. In fact, ...
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S01 Episode 08: Alta Starr - Everything Is Already All Right from 2017-02-16T10:00
“There is so much toxicity in ‘bitch’ --all the misogyny, all the hatred of women. And then to add ‘old' to it. It’s e...
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S01 Episode 07: Carol Jenkins - Serial Adjustments from 2017-02-01T10:00
“The women in my family kept working, never saw any kind of deadline –‘Oh well, now I’ll retire and not do anything.’ I think that’s what I’ll do as well, and hope I’ll get a few more things...
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S01 Episode 06: Elaine Finsilver – The Cracked Plate from 2017-01-25T10:00
S01 Episode 05: Noeleen Heyzer – Through the Eyes of Experience from 2017-01-17T10:00
In these challenging times, we need wise women more than ever! For the last 40 years, Noeleen Heyzer, 68, has been a courageous and influential thinker and advocate for women’s rights, workers’ ...
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S01 Episode 04: Jane Summer - Finding Her Story from 2017-01-03T10:00
Jane Summer, 62, describes herself as a writer and as "the most downwardly mobile person" she knows. Writing is her passion and affliction. At 55, she transformed her life and returned to school...
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S01 Episode 03: Katherine Acey - Will the Elders Please Stand? from 2016-12-20T10:00
Katherine Acey, 65 years old, is a life-long radical social change activist who has stood up, with love, to fight intersecting injustices, whether they’re about gender, race, class or other fiss...
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S01 Episode 02: Sandra Garcia Betancourt – I Am the Point from 2016-12-13T09:00
Sandra Garcia Betancourt, 60 years old, is a writer whose work appeared most recently in Abriendo Caminos, an anthology of Puerto Rican women writers in New York. She is currently the D...
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S01 Episode 01: Mallika Dutt - The Bitch and the Bag Lady from 2016-11-30T00:00
Mallika Dutt, 55 years old, is a leading innovator in human rights, multimedia, and culture change. She is the founder, president, and CEO of Breakthrough (http://us.breakthrough.tv/)...
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S01 Episode 00: Meet The Bitches! from 2016-10-13T13:07:02
Meet Idelisse Malavé and Joanne Sandler - Two Old Bitches (from New York City) as they kick off their show, and talk about how you, too, can nurture your bitchy self. Also, there's wine.
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