Podcasts by Upside Down Podcast
Upside Down Podcast is an ecumenical podcast at the intersection of justice, spirituality, and culture. Join us for conversations about God's Upside Down Kingdom. No topic is off limits. Upside Down Podcast is a collaborative Christian podcast co-founded by Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace. Some of our most popular guests have included Christena Cleveland, Dr. John Perkins, Shane Claiborne, Jo Saxton, Father Greg Boyle, Shannan Martin, and Dominique Gilliard. Popular episodes have featured the enneagram, gentrification, nonviolence, vocations and callings, immigration, and more. Upside Down is proud to be an ecumenical podcast, bridging the gap between Catholic and Protestant thought. Visit www.upsidedownpodcast.com or follow us on Instagram at @upsidedownpodcast.
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Season 6 | Episode 99: Persistence in Learning and Unlearning with Jonny Craig from 2022-02-08T21:00
How do you break up with American Christianity and meaningfully make space for those in deconstruction? Co-hosts Alissa Molina, Patricia Taylor, and Kayla Craig talk with Jonny Craig, Kayla’s hu...
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Season 6 | Episode 98: Persistence in Grace with Kirsten Powers from 2022-01-24T23:00
Have you ever considered just how paradigm-shifting grace is? Co-hosts Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace have a conversation with New York Times bestselling author, USA Today columnist, and CNN Sen...
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Season 6 | Episode 97: Persistence in Truth Telling with Jemar Tisby from 2022-01-11T05:00
How do we talk with young people about fighting racism when we’re struggling with it ourselves? Co-hosts Patricia Taylor, Lindsy Wallace, and Kayla Craig talk with Dr. Jemar Tisby—the founder of...
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Season 6 | Episode 96: Persistence in Advent with Kat Armas from 2021-12-07T03:00
Have you ever considered that Jesus is who he is because of a woman? Co-hosts Patricia Taylor and Kayla Craig talk with writer Kat Armas about this bigger, expansive, abuelita faith—one that per...
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Season 6 | Episode 95: Persisting Through Grief with J.S. Park from 2021-11-23T04:00
How do we navigate grief ourselves and with others? Co-hosts Patricia Taylor and Alissa Molina have a conversation with J.S. Park, who is a teaching pastor, writer, and interfaith hospital chapl...
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Season 6 | Episode 94: Persisting in Boundaries from 2021-11-08T22:00
How do you live an open-handed life while protecting your peace? Co-hosts Lindsy Wallace, Alissa Molina, and Kayla Craig explore the topic of boundaries: what they mean and why they’re crucial i...
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Season 6 | Episode 93: Persistence in Disability with Dr. Amy Kenny from 2021-10-26T01:00
Season 6 | Episode 92: Persisting in Curiosity with Shannon Evans from 2021-10-12T23:00
What is our first inclination when we hear or see something that stretches the way we see things? Do we reach for fear? Do we shut down? Or do we remain curious, asking ourselves questions abo...
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Season 6 | Episode 91: Persistence in Prayer from 2021-09-28T04:00
What comes to mind when you think of prayer? In this episode, Patricia Taylor, Alissa Molina, and Lindsy Wallace interview co-host Kayla Craig about her upcoming book, from 2020-01-14T00:00
It’s Complicated. The more we learn about the suffering of the world, the more difficult it can become to live in it. Join host Lindsy Wallace along with co-hosts Kayla Craig, Alissa Molina, and...
Episode 62 - The Gender&Ethnicity of God with Dr. Christena Cleveland from 2019-12-16T22:00
Dr. Christena Cleveland leads Kayla and Lindsy in a conversation exploring how cultural perceptions of race and gender impact the way we view God.
In this episode, we:
Episode 61 - Kinship at the Border from 2019-11-26T00:00
Host Kayla Craig and co-host Alissa Molina welcome Sami DiPasquale to this episode of Upside Down Podcast - Kinship at the Border. We’re moving beyond headlines to discuss how to best love ou...
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Episode 60 - Let's Get Ecumenical! Catholic&Protestant Thought in God's Kingdom (New Audio!) from 2019-11-12T10:00
What can Catholics and Protestants learn from each other's traditions? Can we work together in God’s upside-down kingdom? And when can—or should—we set aside the subtle (or not-so-subtle) d...
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Episode 58 - Good Grief: Leaning into the Now and Not Yet from 2019-10-08T01:00
Season 4 | Episode 58 - Good Grief
Grief is the deep sorrow, anguish, and pain we feel after a loss or a death of a loved one. We all know it when it comes to us, in our hearts a...
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Episode 57 - The Enneagram for Justice Seekers from 2019-09-23T23:00
We’re familiar with or at least heard of the Enneagram, but how can it help us usher in a more livable world for the most marginalized among us? What does this age-old tool of self-discovery ...
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Episode 56 - Performative Wokeness (and Introducing Season 4!) from 2019-09-09T23:00
What's performative wokeness? How does our faith influence the destructive performativity of Internet activism? In this episode, join host Kayla, with co-hosts Lindsy, Alissa, and Gina, ...
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Episode 55 - Beating Guns: From Swords to Plowshares with Shane Claiborne and Mike Martin from 2019-06-04T00:00
Violence permeates our society. But Shane Claiborne and Mike Martin believe we can begin preparing for the future the prophets foretold now, where swords will be converted to plows. Join us as w...
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Episode 54: Hope as Resistance: Stuff That Needs to Be Said with John Pavlovitz from 2019-05-14T00:00
Hope is still possible, even when the pain of the world feels like too much. What if kindness, empathy, and compassion are the way forward? Join host Kayla Craig and co-hosts Lindsy Walla...
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Episode 53 - Hashtag Called: Exploring Calling and Vocation from 2019-04-23T01:00
You can’t fully explain it. But we’ve all experienced the phenomenon: Inner tugs that just won’t let us go. What are callings? How do we define vocation? Inspired by one of our first and most-po...
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Episode 52 - Livin'on a Prayer: A Creative Take on What it Means to Pray from 2019-04-09T00:00
What is prayer? Why does it matter? Is there a right way to pray? Join Kayla Craig, Lindsy Wallace, and Alissa Molina as they enter into an engaging, unexpected, fast-paced conversation with Jus...
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Episode 51 - The"F"Word: Unpacking Feminism and Other Labels from 2019-03-25T00:00
In this episode, Lindsy Wallace is joined by guest co-host and friend of the podcast Diana Oestreich in a conversation with Claire ...
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Episode 50 - Begin Again: Examining Our Stories&Introducing New Co-Hosts! from 2019-03-11T00:00
What happens when your plans get turned upside down? What happens when you have to begin again? This two-part episode starts on a personal note and ends with exciting introductions of TWO...
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Episode 49 - Ethical Storytelling with Dr. Melissa Borja + Jacob Mau: Seeing Beyond Ourselves from 2019-02-18T00:00
What is ethical storytelling? Why is it important to allow others to tell their own stories? In this thought-provoking episode, we're back from our hiatus to do a deep dive into what to ...
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Episode 48 - Representation Matters: Diversity in Healing with Ryan Tolbert of Tru-Colour Bandages from 2018-12-11T00:00
What does "representation matters" mean? Ryan Tolbert of Tru-Colour Bandages joins Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace to discuss what representation is, why it matters, their own represent...
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Episode 47 - Consumerism and God's Kingdom (Featuring Special Guests Shannan Martin and Ashley Hales!) from 2018-11-27T00:00
Consumption! Capitalism! Consumerism! Christmas! We’re hitting pause and engaging the heart of consumption, capitalism, consumerism and most importantly, the heart of Christmas. What does it mea...
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Episode 46 - Father Gregory Boyle Talks Kinship, Compassion, and Hope in Suffering from 2018-11-12T23:00
Get ready for a very special conversation with Father Gregory Boyle, founder of Homeboy Industries, the largest gang intervention, rehab and re-entry program in the United States. Father G sat d...
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Episode 45 - Love Crosses Borders: Immigration Beyond the Headlines with Sarah Quezada from 2018-10-22T00:00
Immigration has become a polarizing and politicized topic in our country and our world. Demeaning phrases and overwhelming statistics are thrown around with frightening ease and often it ...
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Episode 44 - Faith Under Construction: Recorded Live from the Upside Down Gathering in Chicago! from 2018-10-08T00:00
We're excited to share our first episode ever recorded with a live audience, recorded at the Upside Down Gathering ...
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Episode 43 - A Spiritual View of Vulnerability with Pastor Mandy Smith from 2018-09-24T00:00
We talk vulnerability with Mandy Smith, lead pastor of University Christian Church, a campus and neighborhood congregation with its own fair-trade café in Cincinnati.
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Episode 42 - Preemptive Love with Jessica Courtney: Love Anyway, Show Up, and Get Out of the Way from 2018-09-10T00:00
We kick off season three with an extra special conversation with one of our friends at Preemptive Love Coalition! Jessica Courtney, co-founder and Vice President of International Programs for...
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Bonus Episode: Community, Art, Justice: A Special Message About The Upside Down Gathering from 2018-06-21T00:00
We're gathering in Chicago this fall at the first-ever Upside Down Gathering. Today (June 22) is the last day to purchase your early bird tickets, so Kayla and Lindsy have a quick chat introdu...
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Episode 41 - Intentional Community (And an Upside Down Gathering in September!) from 2018-05-21T00:00
In our last regular episode before summer break, we gather to talk about community: not the hashtag or the social media version, but the essence of community as a sense of place and belonging. H...
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Episode 40 - Making Peace With Our Bodies from 2018-05-08T00:00
In this episode, we gather to discuss the relationship between women and our bodies. Host Shannon Evans is joined by Lindsy Wallace, Kayla Craig, and special guest, author Colleen Mitchell. Colle...
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Episode 39 - Rethinking Incarceration with Dominique Gilliard from 2018-04-24T00:00
We're grateful to have Dominique Gilliard, author of “Rethinking Incarceration: Advocating for Justice That Restores,” join us on the podcast. In addition to being an author and an ordained mi...
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Episode 38 - Parenting: Raising Upside Down Kids from 2018-04-09T00:00
What does it look like to raise upside down kids and be intentional parents in God's Kindom? Are the Beatitudes just for people who aren’t too busy? Was Jesus addressing only non-parents? How ...
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Episode 37 - The Enneagram: Unscripted Conversations on Spirituality, Culture, and God's Upside Down Kingdom from 2018-03-26T00:00
In this episode, we talk all things Enneagram, an ancient tool that has grown in popularity in Christian spheres in recent years. Most people think of the Enneagram as a personality typing system, ...
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Episode 36 - Mental Health + The Conversations We Need to Have, Feat. Guest Host and Counselor Aundi Kolber from 2018-03-13T00:00
Professional counselor Aundi Kolber joins for an open and honest conversation about mental health, and the sometimes precarious relationship between mental health and the Christian community. Kayl...
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Episode 35 - Adoption 2.0: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2018-02-27T00:00
What's it like to “do life” as an adoptive family? Kayla Craig leads the conversation with co-hosts Shannon Evans and Lindsy Wallace. Between us, we have 13 kids, six of whom were adopted. ...
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Episode 34 - Kingdom Women with Jo Saxton and Pastor Steph: Unscripted Conversations on Life and Faith from 2018-02-12T00:00
Jo Saxton and Steph Williams O'Brien join us in this episode to discuss what it's like to be a woman in God's Kingdom in 2018. What did God have in mind when He created wo...
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Episode 33 - It's OK to Grow Old: Are We Afraid to Talk About Aging? - Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2018-01-23T00:00
Do we avoid talking about age?? ?Why? Kayla? ?Craig leads the discussion with? ?co-host Lindsy Wallace and guest host Corinne Shark? joins us from SE Asia. We talk about it all in this episode?: ?A...
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Episode 32 - Ethical Fashion: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2018-01-09T00:00
What is ethical fashion? Everything we wear comes at a cost - often at the expense of artisans abroad who are exploited for cheap labor. Guest co-host Lauren Pinkston of Wearthy joins us at the vir...
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Episode 31 - Ask Us Anything: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-12-19T00:00
You asked; we answered in this episode of Upside Down. Lindsy Wallace hosts a fun "Ask Us Anything" version of the podcast with Kayla Craig and Shannon Evans. We answer listener questions...
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Episode 30 - All The Small Things: Smallness in God's Kingdom - Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-12-05T00:00
Does big equal better in God's upside-down Kingdom? Join us as we dive into what God says about all the small things in this episode of Upside Down Podcast. Where does grace factor in as we de...
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Episode 29 - God&Money: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-11-21T00:00
What does God say about finances? What power does money hold in God's upside down kingdom? Is there really enough to go around in God's economy? In this episode of Upside Down Podcast, we...
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Episode 28 - Nationalism: Is it an Idol? Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-11-06T00:00
Do we put country before God's kingdom? What happens when we conflate being patriotic with being a Christian? Does the flag come before the cross? Join us as we wade into murky waters of natio...
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Episode 27 - Peacemaking: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-10-17T00:00
Jesus said, "blessed are the peacemakers", but what does it look like to actually live as one? Lindsy, Kayla, and Shannon are joined by guest co-host and professional peacemaker Diana Oes...
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Episode 26 - Commitment to Celebration: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-10-03T00:00
The world is broken. People are hurting. But even - maybe especially - when life is at its most difficult, could the practice and discipline of celebration be what orients our hearts to the Kingdom...
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Episode 25 - Spiritual Seasons and Transitions: Unscripted Conversations on Life and Faith from 2017-09-12T00:00
What are spiritual seasons? How do we process transition? What does change look like in God's Kingdom? We dive into what it looks like when expectations are dashed, hope is found, and life tak...
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Episode 24: Gentrification: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-08-15T00:00
Gentrification: It's a topic often misunderstood, and maybe even a bit controversial. We speak with Leroy Barber, one of the few experts on gentrification. Leroy has dedicated nearly thirty ye...
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Episode 23 - Downward Mobility: What Is It? Is It Different from Minimalism&Simplicity? Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-07-11T00:00
What is downward mobility and how is it different from simplicity and minimalism? What is the appeal to living a life with less and is it sufficient for the Christian? In this episode we discuss wh...
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Episode 22 - Social Media in an Upside Down World from 2017-06-13T00:00
Most of us have a love/hate relationship to social media. We recorded this episode live at our Upside Down Podcast retreat, and in this conversational episode hosted by Kristi James with co-hosts L...
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Episode 21 - Do We Need Church? Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-05-23T00:00
The church is weird and disappointing. And we love it anyway. Why? Join us for a conversation that almost feels like a family meeting. We acknowledge the shortcomings of the local church, but talk ...
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Episode 20 - Mom So Hard: Mother's Day Thoughts: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-05-09T00:00
This one goes out to all the moms! (And all the waiting moms, all the foster moms, all the mom-figures, all the women who bring life to their communities, and all the people who have ever loved a m...
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Episode 19 - Immigration: A Conversation Feat. Salem Afangideh, Immigration Attorney&Nigerian Immigrant from 2017-04-25T00:00
Should Christians care about immigration? Our friend Salem Afangideh, immigration attorney, shares her journey into law and gives perspective into why people of faith should care about issues surro...
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Episode 18 - Christians&Suffering: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-04-11T00:00
Are we surprised by pain & suffering? In the hardest times, it can feel like hope is out of reach, even for a person of faith. In this honest (but hopeful!) episode, all five co-hosts examine w...
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Episode 17 - We Can't Do It All (And We Don't Have to!): Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-03-29T00:00
Doing it all is a myth: And we're here to bust it! Often times, we feel the burden to accomplish everything and spin all the plates. In this special episode (which was recorded LIVE and IN PER...
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Episode 16 - LIFE: Redemption&Abortion: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-03-21T00:00
Join us as we sit down Amber Newberry, who shares her heartbreaking experience of sexual assault and abortion, and how she found redemption in God's love. (Save this episode for when little ea...
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Episode 15 - LIFE: A Comprehensive Pro-Life Ethic: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-03-07T00:00
How do we walk in a way that supports life in ALL facets of our messy world? We talk about finding a comprehensive life ethic as we affirm that each person is made in the image of God. We go beyond...
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Episode 14 - Education Options: Can it ALL be Upside Down? Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-03-01T00:00
Homeschool, Christian private schools, public education: Which method do you choose? We had so much left to discuss about education, we recorded a PART 2 to Episode 13. We hope to model what it loo...
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Episode 13 - Education: Public School, Private School, or Homeschool? Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-02-21T00:00
Education is a BIG topic, so why not dive in? What does it look like to live upside-down in the schooling choices we make for our kids? Our co-hosts represent public school, private school, and hom...
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Episode 12 - Shannon's Journey to an Upside Down Life: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-02-07T00:00
In our FINAL meet-the-host episode, we're so glad to get to know deep-thinker Shannon Evans. Shannon shares about loneliness, special needs parenting, and what drew her to Catholicism. A forme...
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Episode 11 -? ?Lori's Journey to an Upside Down Life: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-02-01T00:00
You'll laugh and be deeply moved as you get to know co-host Lori Harris, a public school advocate, a student of radical hospitality, and a perpetual plate spinner who believes that the upside ...
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Episode 10 - Kristi's Journey to an Upside Down Life: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-01-25T00:00
We continue our interview series with host Kristi James. Kristi is a work-at-home writer and editor, as well as a church planter's wife and mom to three little girls. Kristi shares about the t...
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Episode 09 - Kayla's Journey to an Upside Down Life: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-01-17T00:00
Next up in our meet-the-host series is Kayla Craig. Kayla's a full-time journalist turned work-at-home mom (of four!) and author. In this episode, we laugh about her accidental first date with...
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Episode 08 - Lindsy's Journey to an Upside Down Life: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2017-01-10T00:00
To kick off 2017, we're getting to know each co-host with a special episode, diving into faith journeys, unexpected stories, and of course, a little fun, too. In this episode, we get to know L...
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Episode 07 - Joy for All People: Unscripted Conversations on Life and Faith from 2016-12-20T00:00
Joy to the world: What does that mean? What's the difference between happiness and joy? In this advent episode, we discuss the upside down notion that if it’s not good news for everyone, it’s ...
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Special Bonus Episode - The Talk: A Conversation on Race with Tyler Burns from 2016-12-13T00:00
We speak with Tyler Burns, founding member of the Reformed African American Network and host of the Pass the Mic podcast. This conversation is full of grace and honesty, and is deeply important not...
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Episode 06 - Loneliness in the Kingdom of God: Unscripted Conversations on Life and Faith from 2016-12-06T00:00
Following Jesus can feel lonely. Why? Is that an entirely bad thing? Maybe we need to flip our view of loneliness upside down. We discuss why it's easy to feel lonely in this kingdom of now an...
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Episode 05 - Why Love is the Final Fight: A Conversation with Dr. John M. Perkins from 2016-11-21T00:00
Our VERY special first-ever guest is with Dr. John M. Perkins, one of the leading Christian voices to come out of the American civil rights movement. A pastor, author, and founder of the Christian ...
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Episode 04 - Radical Hospitality: Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2016-11-08T00:00
Hospitality: In God's Kingdom, what does hospitality look like? What's the difference between faith-fueled hospitality and simply entertaining? What does the Bible say about radical hospi...
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Episode 03 - Hashtag Blessed: What does"blessed"mean in the Upside Down Kingdom? Unscripted Conversations on Life and Faith from 2016-10-25T00:00
We see #blessed all the time, but what does blessed really mean in God's Kingdom? How has Christian culture used the word blessed incorrectly? Correctly? And what does scripture say about bles...
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Episode 02 - Safety, Fear, and the Kingdom of God. Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2016-10-11T00:00
In Episode 2 of Upside Down, we dive into how Christians can easily idolize safety. What does the Bible say about safety? What about fear? What did Jesus say about being safe? We share five differe...
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Episode 01 - What Does it Mean to Live Upside Down? Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2016-09-27T00:00
Our pilot episode brings together five Christian women from across the country discussing the intersection of life and faith. Join us as we chat about the upside down life in the kingdom of God. No...
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Episode 01 - What Does it Mean to Live Upside Down? Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2016-09-27T00:00
Our pilot episode brings together five Christian women from across the country discussing the intersection of life and faith. Join us as we chat about the upside down life in the kingdom of God. No...
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Episode 01 - What Does it Mean to Live Upside Down? Unscripted Conversations on Life&Faith from 2016-09-27T00:00
Our pilot episode brings together five Christian women from across the country discussing the intersection of life and faith. Join us as we chat about the upside down life in the kingdom of God. No...
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