Verbal Tap (Ep. 488) Pena stuns, DC & UFC 269 - a podcast by Raf Esparza and Kevin Phillips

We have good friend Dan Tom (@DanTomMMA) back on the show to find out who best whom in UFC 269 picks. The guys go deep on the DC discussion as it highlights a larger commentary discussion. Listen in, because 8 years ago we interviewed now champion Julianna Pena.

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