Verbal Tap with Dr. David Ley and Josh Hinger - a podcast by Raf Esparza and Kevin Phillips

from 2015-06-16T04:00

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Raf and Kevin open the show talking about UFC 188 and Cain's corner advice! Then, Dr. David Ley swings by to talk BJJ and his views on the impact and potential impacts of jiujitsu. Finally, Josh Hinger from ATOS jiujitsu swings by to talk his upcoming fight at the Submission Series Pro and which ATOS crew member is which New Girl character. Ya....we (Raf) asked.