Rob Ryan sits down for a long interview, Jon Allen&Landon Collins talk as well and is the defense slightly overrated? - a podcast by NBC Sports Washington

JP Finlay, Mitch Tischler and Pete Hailey traded in the Ashburn sun for the Bethesda studios for this Thursday MyTeams stream, which is now available to you as a podcast. Before football things really get going, JP and Pete have to sort out an issue that has JP very, very upset and Pete playing defense. Once that settles down, the guys talk about Jay Gruden's job security; is he absolutely gone if the playoffs don't happen? Then, they toss to their second strong interview with Rob Ryan (9:56), and chat with the ILB coach about all of his players, how he feels post-Reuben Foster and what he thinks about the very experienced coaching staff. When that finishes, JP makes an interesting comparison between the 'Skins and the Nationals, which leads into a bigger look at whether people are expecting too much out of the 2019 defense. Eventually, you'll also hear soundbites from Jonathan Allen and Landon Collins before things wrap up with some Ereck Flowers-related shtick. If you like podcasts where the hosts discover a podcast mole and Mitch gets vindicated left and right, then this is the episode for you.

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