Rutger Bregman on elites, survival of the friendliest, rethinking human history - a podcast by Channel 4 News

Rutger Bregman is a Dutch writer and historian known for shaking up social norms. Last year, he attracted global attention at the World Economic Forum in Davos when he turned on his wealthy audience and called out those who avoid paying taxes.

He has also argued for a universal basic income. His latest work ‘Humankind’ offers a roadmap for how we might organise society differently, based on the idea that deep down most people are actually decent human beings.

He talks to Krishnan about his Ten Commandments to living your life in a good way, his arguments for a universal basic income and his observations of humanity during the coronavirus lockdown.

Producer: Rachel Evans

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