Hawthorn premiership player and Hawks for Change figure Andrew Gowers (10.11.21) - a podcast by SEN

How he felt he should put his hand up to instigate change at Waverley, the collegiate atmosphere among the movement, the disenchantment over the coaching handover and how it can serve as a circuit breaker, how incumbent president Jeff Kennett has earned a "dignified and suitable" exit, why former AustralianSuper boss Ian Silk is a strong candidate to lead the club, his hopes the Hawks can move on from poker machine revenue, and more.

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