Podcasts by Where Do We Go From Here?
A bi-monthly podcast untangling sex, self, and community for a new generation of Christians. Leave purity culture behind, save what matters.
Further podcasts by Devi Abraham & Jessica Van Der Wyngaard
Podcast on the topic Christentum
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Where Is Jess Going From Here? from 2023-11-30T09:03
In this episode our co-founder Jessica Van Der Wyngaard tells us the bittersweet news that she's stepping down as co-host of the show and why it's the right time to go.
‘Holy Runaways’ And The Search For A Spiritual Home from 2023-11-15T02:13
In this episode we explore what it means to lose our faith and community because our beliefs, or sometimes our very selves, put us at odds with the expectation...
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Is Andy Stanley's Method the Future for LGBTQ+ Engagement in the Church? from 2023-10-12T08:12
Andy Stanley's megachurch, North Point, held a conference to equip parents of LGBTQ+ youth and young adults to love and accept their kids, and soon after conservativ...
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A Single Woman&Fertility After 40: Annie's Story from 2023-10-04T02:36
Annie Parsons is having a baby, and she's an unpartnered, 41-year-old woman in middle America who grew up in Purity Culture. Yes, we have questions. Her answers tell a complex, beautiful story a...
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135: Anna McGahan on the Stories that Shape Us, Break Us, and Make Us from 2023-09-22T04:46
Anna McGahan is an Australian actress and storyteller who found God in the most radical of ways. Baptised into the Pentecostal tradition, she gave up everything to follow Jesus only to find that...
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134: Evangelicalism Failed Our Girls. Here's How We Can Do Better. from 2023-08-31T08:11
The evangelical message for girls was all about virginity, naivete, and silence, and millenial women are paying the price for it. "Listen
133: Sex Toys For (Christian) Dummies from 2023-08-09T01:06
We're mixing faith and friskiness and spilling divine secrets on tasteful toys. Get ready to bless your bedside drawer with a touch of sex-educator-approved delights. Dr. Celeste Holbrook is bac...
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132: The Problem With Purity Rings (And Other Bad Symbols&Metaphors) from 2023-07-25T10:00
Purity Culture graduates left the movement with our feet stuck to chewed up gum, our fingers locked into purity rings, and our hearts (supposedly) irreparably broken. But these were images and m...
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131: Child Trafficking is Terrible. 'Sound of Freedom' Misses the Point. from 2023-07-20T02:30
While "Sound of Freedom" rakes in the profits in the US box office, there are still children in exploitative circumstances. Are search and rescue missions the most effective way of rehabilitatin...
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130: Why Christians Should Talk About "The Secrets of Hillsong" (Episode 4 Recap) from 2023-07-11T03:34
"Christians need to face the truth of who we are." That's what Professor Iwan Russell-Jones told us, and it's why we took a hard look at Hillsong through the FX/Hulu docuseries "The Secrets of H...
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129: “The Secrets of Hillsong” Reveals the Many Problems with Frank Houston (Episode 3 Recap) from 2023-06-28T23:46
Trigger Warning: This is a conversation about Frank Houston's three-decade history of sexually abusing children, and there are many references to the subject. Please proceed with caution if ...
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128: "The Secrets of Hillsong" Can't Make Carl Lentz A Prodigal Son (Episode 2 recap) from 2023-06-22T03:01
We dive deep into the shocking downfall of Carl Lentz, former pastor of Hillsong New York, and ask questions about the supposedly eye-opening revelations from "The Secrets of Hillsong" documenta...
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127: Looking for Truth in "The Secrets of Hillsong" (Episode 1 Recap) from 2023-06-08T03:09
What is true about the global megachurch Hillsong? There's a new docuseries out from Vanity Fair and FX trying to get to it. But do they get it right? Starting this week Jess and Devi recap the ...
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126: The Recent Allegations Against Mike Pilavachi from 2023-05-11T02:01
Trigger Warning: This episode contains references to spiritual, religious, and sexual abuse. Please proceed with caution.
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125: Revisiting "The Sex Talk" with Jess' mum from 2023-05-04T09:11:05
At some point in childhood you first learnt about sex.
This might have been in the form of "the sex talk" from your parents. Or you might have heard it elsewhere.
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124: The Big Debrief from 2023-04-25T06:26
Ever wonder what it's like to gather with a group of strangers to talk about purity culture? Our partners get to experience it Listen
123: Making (Grownup) Friends Is Hard To Do from 2023-04-19T06:00
Join us for an insightful discussion with Laura Tremaine, author of The Life Council, as we explore the challenges of making and keeping friends in adulthood. From busy schedules to changes in l...
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(SNEAK PEAK) The Trials and Triumphs of 'Bridget Jones' Diary' from 2023-04-17T06:02
(SNEAK PEAK) Bekah McNeel Tells the Story About White Evangelicals and Parenting from 2023-04-12T17:06
We delve into the world of Evangelical parenting with journalist Bekah McNeel. From perfectionism to purity culture, we uncover the the impact of Evangelical parenting on children's emotional, m...
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122: Rehumanizing Men from 2023-04-05T06:00
Trigger warning: this episode contains a short discussion of childhood sexual abuse. Please proceed with caution.
Purity Culture was bad for men, too. In this episode Zachary Wag...
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(121) Like A Virgin: The Story Evangelicals Told About Virginity from 2023-03-22T22:30
This episode is for all the people who were told your virginity was the most important thing about you. In this episode, we get into the meaning of virginity to evangelicals, the history, what w...
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(SNEAK PEAK) Can You Peel An Apple In One Long Curl? from 2023-03-16T23:06
In this partner-only episode, we're dusting off our VHS tapes (or maybe...
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120: Ephesians 5 Gone Wrong in the Latest Evangelical Take on Sex from 2023-03-08T03:21
If you thought bad evangelical sex books were a thing of the 80s and 90s, guess again. Last week The Gospel Coalition lit the interwebs on fire by publishing an excerpt from an...
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SNEAK PEAK! Is 'Center Stage' A Toe-tal Disaster? from 2023-03-02T03:01
Ready to take center stage? In this episode, we dissect the problems with the 2000 cult classic dance movie, Center Stage. From unrealistic depic...
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119: What If We Didn't Kiss Dating Goodbye from 2023-02-23T02:16
Jess and Devi look back at their teenage years and wonder what if... we hadn't kissed dating goodbye. We talk about:
- what it's like to not get asked out
- our first dates Listen
(SNEAK PEAK) On Bread, Singleness, Food, and Hunger with Kendall Vanderslice from 2023-02-09T00:37
Kendall Vanderslice is with us to talk about her upcoming book Listen
118: Hope For 'Orphaned Believers' from 2023-02-01T23:25
This is for anyone who feels like they don't belong in church or among white evangelicals. Journalist Sara Billups traces the question - "How did we get here?" - by looking at the impact of the ...
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SUMMER SNEAK PEAK! "As if..." we could like this movie from 2023-01-20T10:21
"Clueless" is the romcom that started the flood of high school coming of age movies in the 90s and early 00s, but what do we think about it today Listen
SUMMER SNEAK PEAK! Prince Harry's first time, low libido after babies, plus two Netflix shows from 2023-01-11T07:00
You get to hear a sneak peak of our conversation about Prince Harry's first time - what's the difference between how our culture talks about the...
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117: What's Next For Us (plus changes in support for same sex marriage, evangelical heresies, and our thoughts on 'Harry&Meghan') from 2022-12-28T10:44
Jess and Devi are finishing 2022 out with some big announcements about what's next for the show! Plus we also discuss:
- changes in opinion about gay marriage
- evangelicals' f... Listen
116: A Woman's Body Points To God from 2022-12-14T08:19
Christmas is almost here, and we think it's a perfect time to think about a woman's body and the story it tells about who God is. If God could occupy a woman's body for nine months before Jesus'...
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115: My Kid Came Out. What Do I Do Next? from 2022-12-07T10:31
What do you do when your child comes out? What are the next steps? This is for any parent regardless of what you believe; this episode will give you the tools you need to create a nurturing envi...
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114: Let's Talk About Sex (Education! And Masturbation! And Toys!) from 2022-11-22T09:02
A sex educator is in the house, and she's taking us back to school for the education most of us never got. Erica Smith founded the Purity Culture Dropout™️ Progra...
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113: On Disability, Faith, and the Bodymind from 2022-11-10T08:56
It's no secret - the people who designed purity culture inteded it to benefit white, male, and straight people. What was unsaid was that purity culture was also about a kind of body, a body that...
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112: 'The Wisdom of Your Body' with Dr. Hillary McBride from 2022-10-27T02:16
Embodiment is a popular buzz word in therapy and spirituality circles, but does it have something for Christians and those coming out of a Christian background? D...
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(111) From Bill Hybels to Carl Lentz: Christian Celebrity Problems from 2022-10-14T02:03
This episode is for any Christian who wonders how many more ministry leaders we have to see fall from grace in the headlines. Katelyn Beaty uncovers the love for celebrity at the heart of our ch...
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110: Therapy After Purity Culture part 2 (Rebuilding with Congruence) from 2022-09-29T00:43
What does it mean to have a congruent life after purity culture? Therapy can help us get there, and Dr. Camden Morgante joins us to talk about how. We discuss:
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109: Therapy After Purity Culture (part 1) from 2022-09-21T07:00:48
108: The Big One About Abortion from 2022-09-13T11:18:19
What do you wish you could say out loud about abortion? We get into it in this huge episode. There's a lot of yelling on both sides of the abortion conversation; we try to cut through the noise ...
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107: On Sexuality, Soul Ties, and the Bible from 2022-08-17T11:50:10
Purity Culture was full of pseudo-theologies, and we get into one of them here: the Soul Tie. The idea that premarital sex forms a connection in the heavenlies, one that maybe can be broken, but...
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106: Is Consent Enough? from 2022-08-03T09:30:40
After #MeToo exploded on to the scene, it seemed like the dating landscape for women changed. Consent is a necessary floor, but what is the ceiling for our relationships? Is consent enough to pr...
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105: Getting Back on the Apps from 2022-07-20T03:04:22
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104: Our Secular&Evangelical Cultures Do Not Understand Abuse from 2022-07-13T12:48:56
Trigger Warning: This episode contains references to grooming and sexual assault.
Purity Culture is part of the reason why our secular and religious culture's still don't know w...
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103: You Were Told Your Body Was Unsafe. God Has a Different Message. from 2022-06-29T20:41:23
If you believed your body was unsafe, the source of sin, what caused others to stumble, this episode is for you. With kindness and clarity, KJ Ramsey leads us back to a God who made us for safet...
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102: How To Survive Wedding Season As a Single from 2022-06-22T07:00:41
101: What Sex Ed In The Church Could Look Like from 2022-06-08T14:00
The founders of Big Kids Table join us to talk about "faith-inspired sex education and conversation." Is this even possible in the church or in Christian ...
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100: 100 Episodes and the Conversation That Continues from 2022-05-27T10:30:21
One hundred episodes in, and we are just getting started! Jess and Devi talk about the beginnings of this show, what it means to us, and what it means to YOU. We also discuss the report about ho...
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99: How Women In The Margins Remake The World from 2022-05-11T07:05:09
98: News and Views: Hillsong, Bridgerton, and More from 2022-04-27T10:10:45
97: Gaslighting in Relationships and the Church from 2022-04-13T07:00:45
We can’t go a week without hearing about another Christian leader or ministry accused of abusive leadership. Is this a uniquely evangelical problem? We talk today about gaslighting, the tactic u...
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96: Motherhood&Friendship Through Life's Big Transitions from 2022-03-30T07:03:23
We are talking all about new motherhood - can a friendship between people without kids and people with kids survive the early days of a newborn? We talk about what not to say to a new mama, what...
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95: How Little Women helps us redefine "happily ever after" from 2022-03-16T11:04:57
This week Jessica is joined by a guest co-host to discuss Greta Gerwig’s recent adaptation of Louise May Alcott’s beloved novel Little Women.
We revisit our own childhood’s looking back o...
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94: Do We Need Another Christian Dating Book? from 2022-03-02T09:05
93: Pam&Tommy: Celebrity Voyeurism and Consent from 2022-02-19T01:00
The new mini series documenting the beginning of Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee's tumultuous marriage is out. But is this a "feminist statement" as actor Nick Offerman and others suggested or a v...
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92: The Quest for Desire, Longing, and Beauty with Dr. Curt Thompson from 2022-02-16T09:32
Desire is part of who we are, and it points our lives toward something greater than ourselves. In this expansive conversation, we talk about why desire matters, why it cannot be stopped, and what i...
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91: Lazy Genius-ing A Galentines/Palentines Party from 2022-02-02T11:00:29
90: Redeeming Love and the Problem With Evangelical Novels from 2022-01-28T21:10:24
*Trigger Warning: This episode contains reference to childhood rape, every manner of sexual abuse and violence toward women. We encourage you to proceed with caution and kindness toward your...
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89: On Premarital Sex: Sin or Not A Sin from 2022-01-19T20:45:09
We wrap up our series On Premarital Sex by talking to Professor David Ayers who has studied the sex lives of young evangelicals for the past 30 years. We also share the results of our survey and...
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88: Chasing Glory in the Song of Songs from 2022-01-05T21:45:59
What if there was more to being men and women than cultural roles and expectations? Aimee Byrd joins us with an invitation to study the Song of Songs as something beautiful, glorious, and re-inv...
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87: The Family Stone from 2021-12-16T04:36:58
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86: Purity Culture 2.0 from 2021-11-24T13:00
If you thought purity culture was a thing of the past, guess again. Turns out there are new forms in 2021. We're calling it Purity Culture 2.0, and it's found on YouTube and Instagram and in new...
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85: On Premarital Sex: Abstinence After True Love Waits from 2021-11-10T12:03:48
No chewed up gum metaphors allowed in this episode about abstinence. You'll hear the thoughts and lived experience of a single woman in her 30s who chooses abstinence now. What makes this abstin...
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BONUS: Your Body is Good Encore from 2021-11-03T21:29:02
A portion of our Partner-only conversation with fat activist Amanda Martinez Beck. Beck joins us to talk about fatness and sexuality.
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84: Your Body Is Good from 2021-10-27T09:16:59
The conversation about human sexuality after purity culture is a conversation about bodies. All kinds of bodies. We know what our culture promotes as the "acceptable" body, but what does the chu...
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BONUS: Devi Reads Jess The News (And Jess Tells Devi What to Watch) from 2021-10-20T06:00
Every month our partners get to hear us debrief purity culture in the news and pop culture that has purity culture resonance. This month we talk ...
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83 On Premarital Sex: Reimagining Celibacy from 2021-10-07T23:50:39
Purity culture told us to wait to have sex because one day (for sure) we would get married and have "really hot sex." Today we invite you to examine another aspect of the premarital sex conversa...
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BONUS: When Harry Met Sally from 2021-10-04T07:10:04
Our partners got our deep dive of the OG romcom When Harry Met Sally. This movie covers some of the topics nearest and dearest to the hearts of purity culture lovers, namely this big question: Listen
82: Break Free From Unwanted Sexual Behavior from 2021-09-23T23:32:51
Therapist and author Jay Stringer joins us today to help us address a listener question. "What do you think are the best concrete steps that men can take to retra...
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81: On Premarital Sex: What Are The Rules When There Are No Rules? from 2021-09-12T23:29:34
We are going THERE. This is the start of a two-part series about premarital sex. Today Matthias Roberts joins us to help those of you open to considering what breaking some of your former rules ...
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80: Masculinity Needs Definitions from 2021-09-01T09:33:02
Did you hear our new intro? Yes, we are here to untangle sex, self, and community for a new generation of Christians. Leave behind purity culture, and save what matters. Together, let's rebuild ...
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BONUS: Reflections on Christian Celebrity After 'I Survived I Kissed Dating Goodbye' from 2021-08-24T23:23:41
When Jessica Van Der Wyngaard created the film I Survived I Kissed Dating Goodbye, she had to face her own relationship with Christian ...
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BONUS: Mars Hill, Mark Driscoll, and the Pollution of Our Sexual Imaginations from 2021-08-02T06:54:25
Trigger Warning: This episode contains references to sexual assault and other serious matters. Please proceed with caution.
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79: "Causing Some Good Trouble" from 2021-07-28T14:36:02
It's our last listener show, and we go out with a bang getting to talk to DeVon this week. He tells us about going from a church background to walking away from God and his return to the church....
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78: We Can't 'Love the Sinner and Hate the Sin' from 2021-07-21T11:02:58
Raise your hand if you heard the phrase "Love the sinner, hate the sin." Turns out there's a psychological reason why this is impossible. Dr. Richard Beck joins us today to talk about the psycho...
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77: "I'm Afraid of Making Mistakes" from 2021-07-07T06:00
Listener Julie joins us to talk about the fear of making mistakes and how it crippled her for years. You'll find yourself in the broad themes of her story as someone who had to take on Purity Cu...
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76: Modesty Was The Gateway Drug To Purity Culture from 2021-06-30T12:38:07
If you've been eyeing a summer bikini and hoping no one from church sees you, this might be your episode. Most of us had a parent or pastor telling us what to wear before we ever heard about pre...
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75: "I'm Queer And In The Church" from 2021-06-23T10:54:41
We've got a BIG episode for you to finish out June 2021. Listener and book club member Steph joins us to share her where do we go from here? story. From conservative...
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74: The Troubled History of Manufactured Masculinity in American Evangelicalism from 2021-06-16T12:25:18
One of Purity Culture's origin stories is the birth of the militaristic masculine tradition inside white American evangelicalism. It is a story clearly told and meticulously documented by Profes...
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73: Obligation Sex and the Other Problems with Christian Sex Books from 2021-06-09T07:00
Move over Christian sex books, there's a rescue at hand. Sheila Wray Gregoire and her co-writers surveyed 20,000 Christian women, and what they found is shocking. If reading Love & Respect, the ...
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72: The Truths&Myths of Dating a Non-Christian from 2021-06-02T07:00
Most of us who left Purity Culture know that there were two pieces of advice for successful relationships: Don't date a non Christian and don't have premarital sex. Ready for more? We tackle Chr...
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71: "They Taught Me How To Be A Good Girl But Not How To Be A Woman" from 2021-05-26T11:44:58
Morgan Strehlow joins us to tell her Purity Culture story. The church taught her how to be a good girl and expected her to lead, but left her withou...
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70: 3 Mistakes Christians Make When Reading the Bible from 2021-05-19T07:00
We've all heard "The Bible clearly says" from pastors and people we know, so how do we get better at understanding biblical texts? Theology professor and acade...
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69: The Big One About Consent from 2021-05-12T08:07:45
Consent is a big word that's been in the news for the past few years, and when New South Wales Police Commissioner Mick Fuller suggested an app to regulate consent for the purpose of reducing as...
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68: Why You Need To Watch 'Promising Young Woman' from 2021-05-03T04:05:28
Want a movie that simultaneously makes you think about revenge and forgiveness, sex and consent, men and women AND romcoms? "Promising Young Woman" is director/writer Emerald Fennel's Oscar-winn...
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67: Where Did Jenna Go From Here? from 2021-04-28T11:56:15
It's time to hear one of YOUR stories. Today Jenna tells us about purity culture in California, how her teen years and 20s helped her make decisions as she got older. Her story will help you fee...
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66: Relationships&Attachment Triggers with Krispin Mayfield from 2021-04-21T03:30:17
This week we start to find ways to heal, grow, and move forward. Therapist Krispin Mayfield gives us simple tools to begin the process of healing.
65: Is Your Love Preoccupied, Avoidant, or Disorganized? from 2021-04-13T07:59:08
The science of attachment teaches us about how we relate to other people. As therapist Krispin Mayfield tells us today, we were created for connection, so how are we connecting with others if we...
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64: 'Biblical' Womanhood Was Always Cultural Womanhood With Professor Beth Allison Barr from 2021-04-07T23:23:08
Remember those talks about how to be a "Biblical" woman, or a Proverbs 31 woman? What if it was never about the Bible? Professor Beth Allison Barr talks us through the cultural forces that shape...
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63: What To Do When #MeToo Is In The News? from 2021-04-01T03:52:33
Trigger Warning: rape and sexual assault
What do you do when the news is triggering? Australia's been reeling with its own #MeToo moment, and as headline after headline broadcast...
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62: Where Did Julia Go From Here? from 2021-03-24T06:00
The last episode of the month is when we get to hear YOUR stories, and today Julia talks to us about untangling purity culture and deconstructing her faith...in 2008. She was way ahead of schedu...
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61: What Does the Bible Really Say from 2021-03-17T11:14:39
We hear a lot about what the New Testament supposedly says about.. everything (including sex). But as we're reminded today by our guest, the New Testament is largely made up of letters that we'r...
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60: First Comes Love, Then Comes Marriage, Then What? from 2021-03-10T12:51:14
Jess got married, and we are talking about it! What if "Congratulations" is the wrong thing to say at a wedding? How can we see marriage as a different stage of life instead of a promotion from ...
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59: Does The Movie 'Never Been Kissed' Hold Up? from 2021-03-03T10:06:15
This episode is part of our Jess & Devi Show series for our partners, but today you get a peak at the magic on the inside with our recap of the 1999 hit rom com "Never Been Kissed."
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58: Where Did Amy Go From Here? from 2021-02-24T05:20:09
What's the best way to push back against celebrity culture? Listen to people who aren't on the platform. We do that once a month by featuring YOUR stories. Today we hear from Amy, one of our ear...
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57: An Expansive Vision for Human Sexuality with Debra Hirsch from 2021-02-17T09:00
Debra Hirsch published the book Redeeming Sex in 2015 before evangelicals had the language we do today for the connection between spirituality and sexuality. Her work flows out of her d...
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BONUS: An Update on Ravi Zacharias from 2021-02-15T03:56:48
We discuss the report released last week by Miller & Martin PLLC about numerous allegations of sexual abuse and misconduct by Ravi Zacharias.
56: What Breaks Us And Why Sharing Helps With Laura Tremaine from 2021-02-10T13:30
Laura Tremaine is a storyteller and she joins us for a candid conversation about her life in a white evangelical subculture, how she moved out of it in Hollywood, and how she navigated her relat...
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55: Galentines and the Celebration of Friendship in a Romance World from 2021-02-04T01:00
February the month of love! Why is it though that both the broader culture and church culture tries to funnel us toward romantic love as the only expression of love there is? We want to celebrat...
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54: Where Did Jason Go From Here? from 2021-01-27T10:00
Every month we are going to bring you stories of every day people who listen to the show and are working out what to do with what they learn here. Today, we meet Jason. He's from California but ...
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53: What Makes Sex Good with Dr. Celeste Holbrook from 2021-01-20T06:00
Consider this your private appointment with a sex educator to find out all the details you missed out on about s-e-x. Dr. Celeste Holbrook joins us to talk about ...
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52: Parenting and Re-parenting Without Sexual Shame with Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers from 2021-01-13T08:17:42
It's not ONE sex talk, it's one hundred one-minute conversations about sexuality, intimacy, and body curiosity. Ever wondered how to parent your kids in a way that celebrates their sexuality ins...
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51: Ravi Zacharias Update, Love Actually and More! from 2021-01-06T06:14:13
We start 2021 off with a letter from our mailbag, personal news, and a look at the recent report from Miller & Martin regarding the firm's investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct aga...
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50: Say goodbye to those "heroes" from 2020-12-21T23:45:43
Ravi Zacharias. John Crist. Carl Lentz. It hasn't been a good year for famous Christians, specifically as it relates to sex. Today we revisit one of our most-downloa...
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49: Sex and Agency from 2020-12-21T23:06:41
Waiting for permission? You're not the only one... Listen in to this remix of Devi's conversation with sex therapist and author, Sheila Gregoire - our guest on the episode Sex is for Wives t...
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48: When You're Alone For The Holidays from 2020-12-16T08:54:17
Christmas is a time for romance, or so the Hallmark movies go. What do we do when we're alone during the holidays? And what about 2020 the year when there may be no gatherings because of Covid-1...
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47: Finding Common Ground on Sex, family,&Faith from 2020-12-09T13:30
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46: There's more to Sex Than 'Purity'&'Virginity' from 2020-11-30T02:59:13
All December 2020 we are revisiting our earlier episodes from season 1. Should we use the word "sexual purity" or is there a better way to talk about our sexuality as Christians? Jess and Devi c...
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45: Taylor Swift From Love Story To Exile from 2020-11-25T13:30
She's gone from "It's a love story/ Baby just say yes," to "I think I've seen this film before/ and I didn't like the ending." What does Taylor Swift's music mean for Christians and people leavi...
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44: Untangling Sexual Ethics Without Religion from 2020-11-18T13:30
Erika from Canada joins us today to talk about how she figured out sexual ethics as a teen and young adult. She came from a non religious household and continues to be non religious, but her ide...
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43: Rebuilding Sexual Ethics After Purity Culture from 2020-11-11T13:30
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42: How Can We Have a Better Conversation About Abortion? from 2020-11-04T13:30
Abortion is a conversation about women's bodies, and it is part of the conversation about sexual ethics. Today we connect the dots between Purity Culture rhetoric and abortion. Andrea Lucado joi...
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41: Do We Still Have a Christian Dating Problem? from 2020-10-28T01:17:26
Are you single in church and wondering if you should ask someone out or waiting for someone to ask you out? The stakes feel high, but you're looking for connection. You're tired and wondering ho...
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40: Christians break up too from 2020-10-20T02:31:58
You're not the only one who expected to marry the first person they dated. Lots of evangelical teens raised in Purity Culture did. There was no talk on how to break up. No advice on what to do a...
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39: Courage and Conviction in the Life of Josephine Butler from 2020-10-14T13:30
Do you despair when you look at the state of the world and the church today? Let our deep dive into the life of Josephine Butler give you courage. This extraordinary English woman was born into ...
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38: Pelvic Health After Purity Culture from 2020-10-07T13:30
"We are more than walking pelvises, but we need our pelvises to walk," says Sophia McLean. We talk about pelvic health, the connection between painful sex and purity culture, and the significanc...
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Taking A Break from 2020-09-30T14:30
No episode from us this week, but we'll be back next week to talk all things pelvises.
37: It's Queer, Not "Same-Sex Attracted" from 2020-09-23T14:30
The language we use to define the queer experience matters, and "same-sex attraction" does not cut it. Bridget Eileen Rivera goes into the history of the words "homosexual" and "same sex attract...
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36: 'Heat Seeking Sex Missiles' And Other Beliefs To Reconsider from 2020-09-16T14:30
Knox McCoy reflects on male youth group culture and why we need to reconsider the evangelical approach to purity culture, and he shares how he has the conversation...
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35: A Pastor says #MeToo from 2020-09-09T14:30
34: Real Talk on Race and Relationships from 2020-09-02T14:30
Get ready to learn today from Faitth Brooks and Kathryn Freeman about what it's like to navigate the world as a single, Black, Christian woman. We talk about purity culture, dating and dating ap...
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33: What Comes After Grief from 2020-08-26T14:30
Or is there even an after? K.J. Ramsey writes in her book This Too Shall Last, that "this is not a before and after st...
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32: Naming Your Unspoken Grief from 2020-08-19T14:30
You know when you feel crazy and wonder, "Is it me?" Spoiler alert: IT'S NOT YOU. We invite you to examine these situations to find the unnamed grief that may lie beneath the crazy. Whether it i...
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31: The Myths of App Dating from 2020-08-12T14:30
Ahhh the wild world of app dating! We're here to start untangling this way of dating by debunking some myths. Is it safe? How do you know if someone is who they say they are? Is app dating only ...
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30: Women and Porn from 2020-08-05T14:30
One in three women look at porn, but when it comes to the church, you would think it's only a "male problem." Today we talk about women and porn with our guide, Listen
29: Is It Time to Mute John Crist? from 2020-07-29T14:30
*Trigger warning: This episode contains references to sexual assault.
Comedian John Crist made his return to public comedic work last week with an "apology" video. We talk about...
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28: The Making of Progressive Sexual Ethics from 2020-07-22T14:30
If you wonder what progressive sexual ethics can look like, Matthias Roberts is here to open up the conversation. He speaks to us as a therapist and an author, but he’s also a gay man who grew ...
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27: Moving "Beyond Awkward Side Hugs" from 2020-07-15T14:30
Are you tired of viewing the men and women in your life as potential mates or potential sexual temptations? In our sex-crazed world, is the church any different when it comes to male female rela...
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Let's take a break from 2020-07-03T10:10:49
Jessica and Devi are taking a 2 week break from releasing regular podcast episodes. We'll be back with more before you know it!
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26: Reimagining Single Life from 2020-06-24T14:30
BONUS: Reflections on the Black Experience of Purity Culture from 2020-06-24T14:30
Pastor Curtis Allen joined Covenant Life Church in Gaithersberg, Maryland as a young Black man and after he joined the majority white church, he discovered the dating culture to be...different. ...
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25: Talking to Mum About Purity Culture from 2020-06-17T14:30
Have you ever wanted to sit down with your mom or dad to talk about your life as a teenager? Jess went there. She and her mother, Caren, talk about what life in purity culture was like as a pare...
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24: Why We Need Touch from 2020-06-10T14:30
Today Lore Ferguson Wilbert is here to re-educate us on platonic touch. Listen in to hear why hugs, back scratches, and welcome platonic touch are a necessary part of...
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23: Ravi Zacharias, Josh Harris, and the Myth of Christian Heroes from 2020-06-03T14:30
Ravi Zacharias died on May 19, 2020, and amidst the flood of social media posts saying #thankyouRavi by Christian celebrities like Tim Tebow and ministry leaders like Louie Giglio, there have be...
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22: I Wasn't Straight, but I Also Wasn't Gay from 2020-05-27T14:30
It's our first episode about queer Christianity, and Jenna De Witt joins us to talk about aromantic asexuality. We talk about what it's been like for her to navigate a church life and secular li...
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21: Elsa, Anna, and the Princesses of 2020 from 2020-05-20T14:30
Listen in to this lighthearted chat about Frozen 2 and the evolution of Disney princesses. Yes, we are heading into the unknown with Elsa, Anna, Olaf, and Christoph, but fear not - Elsa's in cha...
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20: Don't Use Faith to Bypass the Body from 2020-05-13T14:30
We promised to bring you new tools for the toolkit of your life, and this episode? It's HUGE. Remember how we grew up with the narrative that every time we blew up a...
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19: Quitting Porn from 2020-05-06T21:21:29
You've heard the reasons why Christian men quit porn, but in continuing this conversation, we wanted to hear from someone outside the evangelical bubble. Coach Leo Tabibzadegan is not a Christia...
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18: Are Evangelicals 'Addicted to Lust'? from 2020-04-29T09:09:04
This episode is for anyone who wants to better understand how pornography impacts evangelicals. We know what we say in public: porn is sin, it leads to destruction, ...
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17: Sex Is For Wives, Too from 2020-04-22T20:17
If you've heard that men have an innate, not-understandable need for sex, popular author Sheila Gregoire disagrees. She says, "the most deprived people in the bedroom are wives." This episode w...
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16: Read Better Books from 2020-04-22T14:11:04
Are you tired of Christian living books and the simple answers they provide for the problems of life? Dr. Karen Swallow Prior joins us in this episode to talk about the way reading forms us, and...
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15: Covid Catchup from 2020-04-22T14:10:47
When we ended season 1, who knew that in mid April we would have been mostly at home without the same social structures we were used to? That's why we are starting off with a Covid Catch Up.
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14: What's Next For Us from 2020-03-19T04:23:11
This episode is for you if you want to know more about where we are at as a community. We talk about your thoughts on premarital sex, porn, app dating, and same-sex relationships as we wrap up o...
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13: Sex and Dating in Culture from 2020-03-04T22:29:59
The finale for Netflix's reality show Love is Blind aired last week, and whether you know who Cameron and Lauren are, whatever you think of Jessica, or if you think reality dating shows are sill...
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12: Sexual Ethics in the Wild from 2020-02-28T01:23:16
Our shortest episode yet, you can hear Jess and Devi talk about two podcast episodes they've recently listened to that helped them think through sexual ethics.Devi recommends Listen
11: Healing After trauma from 2020-02-21T20:04:27
How do we heal from the traumatic experiences? What are the different kinds of therapies out there? How do we forms supportive communities? These are some of the questions we discuss in this wee...
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10: Purity Culture&Trauma from 2020-02-10T06:36:33
Trigger Warning: This episode contains multiple references to rape, sexual assault, and different forms of abuse and violence.
This episode is for you if you are wanting to unde...
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9: How to Talk About Divorce&Grief from 2020-02-05T19:20:59
This episode is for you if you want to learn how to listen and talk to people who suffer. It can be easy to believe that the Christian life will inoculate us against heartbreak; that's certainly...
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Gender Roles&Sexual Equality from 2020-01-30T11:00
"My parents weren't the ones who perpetuated purity culture to me. It was the books, the books, the books. . The reason why it was so damaging to my friends and I is we were reading them in priv...
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8: Gender Roles&Sexual Equality from 2020-01-29T19:04:16
Trigger Warning: This episode contains references to sexual abuse, sexual assault, and rape.
"My parents weren't the ones who perpetuated purity culture to me. It was the books, ...
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7: Q&A on Singleness, Marriage, and Parenting from 2020-01-24T21:58:58
Jess, Devi, and Lindsey take your questions and stories in this week's episode and discuss them. What do you do if your married friends don't value your time as a single person? What happens whe...
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6: Sexual Prosperity&Singleness from 2020-01-15T21:51:20
This conversation is for you if you've wondered what to do when singleness goes on longer than you were promised. Pastor and teacher Sarah Deutscher joins us for this week's conversation about t...
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5: Does God Owe You Hot Sex? from 2020-01-08T21:51:54
You know that sermon, the one where we were all promised that if we saved sex for marriage not only would we get a (great! godly!) spouse, but also a hot sex life. But what are the consequences ...
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4: Disney Princess Films and Purity Culture with Dr. Kutter Callaway from 2019-12-20T14:00
As we uncover more of purity culture's influences, we discuss what cultures have shaped our view on sexuality, marriage and singleness. Biblical culture? Christian culture? Broader culture? Popu...
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3: What Chewed Up Gum Has To Do With Sex from 2019-12-12T14:00
Chewed up gum. Crumpled roses. Tape that lost its stickiness. We talk about these metaphors from purity culture with Dr. Sean McDowell, and we unpack - were these the best ways to talk about pre...
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2: Is Purity the Word the Bible Uses to Talk About Sex? from 2019-12-05T14:00
Is "purity" the word the Bible uses to describe our sexual decisions? How easy is it to make the Bible say what we want it to say? What are tools that we need as we study the Bible for ourselves...
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1: Why Should We Have a Post-Purity Culture Podcast? from 2019-11-28T14:00
Where Do We Go From Here? is untangling sexual ethics for a new generation of Christians. We are here to start a conversation with you about life after purity culture.
You can use our con...
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Trailer - Where Do We Go From Here? from 2019-11-21T14:00
The era of purity rings and True Love Waits pledges may be over, you could stand around the fire of a burning down house and warm your hands, or you can rebuild.
That’s where we come in. W...