Ep 77: Claud - a podcast by Pam Shaffer

Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus.  For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives.

We all got to take a year off of being perceived. And as musician Claud noted in our podcast interview, it also gave us the chance to more fully delve into who we are at our most vulnerable. They spent the time off of touring crafting a new album, complete with self-created art for each song, collaborating with internet friends on Zoom, and being moderately terrified at the accuracy of TikTok's "For You" page. As the world slowly spins up again, we are glad that we can take Claud's songs with us on the journey.

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